Metro vick co bo

[BramptonBranch]

I know Ian Stoate produced a kit (for the class 28 Metro Vick) in the past but is there anything available now?

Thanks!!

[Roy L S]

I know Ian Stoate produced a kit (for the class 28 Metro Vick) in the past but is there anything available now?

Thanks!!

Worsley Works do a scratch-aid etch: -

http://www.worsleyworks.co.uk/N/n_gauge_diesel_locomotives.htm

It isn't a kit, it is as I say above described as a "scratch aid" and doesn't include things like buffers and I'm not sure what chassis would fit (possibly the old Farish Class 20 with a 31 bogie as per the Ian Stoate model?

That aside I don't think there are currently any others (possible these two are all there have ever been?).

Regards

Roy

[WesternKing]

I'm really hoping these will be produced in the near future as they are one of the biggest gaps now in the classic diesel era so with Farish to announce in March & Dapol who haven't announced anything new for a couple of years then not forgetting DJ, we live in hope!

[ScottyStitch]

Incredible that we're struggling to get 1200 ticks for the 21/29, a machine that roamed pretty much all over scotland (save for the ECML south of Edinburgh and the Waverley Route), and parts of East Anglia.

So it's difficult to see how there will ever be enough potential sales for the 28, to be honest, although I'd be delighted to be proved right.

Interestingly, DJM has expressed publicly his musings on producing the EM1 in N. An engine that was restricted geographically to effectively only one line. Again, difficult to see how that would work, but one never knows.

[Newportnobby]

I, too, can't imagine anyone other than a successful Kickstarter project getting the Metrovick to market.
There can't be that many folks wishing to model the 'Condor' freights

A bit like DJ Models class 17 Claytons, they'd probably need a twin pack (1 powered, 1 dummy) due to the high failure rate of the engines

[Mr PJ]

Hello,
The Metro-Vick Co-bo did fairly well in the wish-list poll as it goes in comparison to the 21/29.
In their early years they did roam reasonably far and wide, and actually did a fill-in stopping passenger turn between Glasgow and Carlisle over the G&SW between Condor trips (quite good utilisation for an "unreliable" loco). Also seen pictures of them pottering around on freights in the lowlands around Falkirk too.

Other than the south end of the WCML they could probably be justified on any LMR early dieselisation layout, they were I believe tried out on stone trains around Buxton (with a reasonable degree of success) before heading north.

Perhaps DJ Dave could be persuaded? I am sure he has mused this one in N gauge before now. Sorry, a little outside my area and era personally, but fingers crossed for those that would like one 

Regards,
Paul

[ScottyStitch]

In the 2014 Wish List Poll:

The 28 polled 31 votes for post '61

The 28 polled 31 votes for pre '61

The 21 polled 31 votes

The 29 polled 39 votes

It could be argued that the same 31 voted for both in terms of the Class 28. Likewise it could be argued that 31 of the class 29 votes were the same people as voted for the class 21.

In the 2015 Wish List Poll:

The 28 polled 52 votes for post '61

The 28 polled 33 votes for the pre '61

The 21 & 29 polled 44 votes

Again it could be argued that 33 of the post'61 votes are the same individuals as the pre '61 version.

Unhelpfully, this year the 21 & 29 were lumped together which skews the results somewhat. Extrapolating the results based on last year, however, the 21 would have polled

Regardless, the numbers are so small, that it could be argued that they are both in the same boat in terms of potential sales.

Also, were the class 21/29 results affected by the announcement of the crowdfunding venture? It could be that people thought this would happen, and so didn't want to "waste" a vote. Maybe not, maybe (and this seems to be the case) there is no appetite for the model.

Either way, it's hard to see how the 28 would fare any better.

[Thorpe Parva]

I voted for both versions in the Poll but as I would purchase two locos then it's not double counting. I am one of those who wishes to model the Condor and the 28s were also used on Manchester-St Pancras expresses. In both cases I would require two locos for double-heading.

[ScottyStitch]

I voted for both versions in the Poll but as I would purchase two locos then it's not double counting. I am one of those who wishes to model the Condor and the 28s were also used on Manchester-St Pancras expresses. In both cases I would require two locos for double-heading.

In a sense it is, because the poll is about what you would like produced, not how many you would buy. The 21/29 probably suffers from a "well I'd like a 21, but if only a 29 is available, I'll take that, so I'll vote for both." Similarly, the two versions of the 28. But, the point is, and your experience confirms it, the poll is skewed and unscientific, with regard to both sets of prototypes.

[ScottyStitch]

Dave has just posted here about the EM1 here:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=30497.75;topicseen

There is an answer of sorts, in that he is contemplating the model because he personally wants one and, at best will break even.

I think the 28 and likewise the 21/29 would need much the same approach. Oh for a lottery win of appropriate magnitude.

[robert shrives]

hi
Like football the way to make a small fortune in N is to start of with a large one

All three mentioned here float my collecting boat as shelf queens if nothing else.
If you do an EM2 you do need and EM1 for any layout.  I have kits  built or part built of the diesels and an EM2 kit started in a box glaring at me !

But I have voted for them and made buying noises for Revolution options as it helps widen availability to others not yet got the skills to make or sadly find them fading away.

Merry Crimbo anyway!
Robert

[joe cassidy]

I think some people would buy an EM1 (me included) because of nostalgia for the Triang one.

Best regards,


Joe

[Newportnobby]

I don't remember an EM1 from Tri-ang but did have the EM2 'Electra'
Loved the fact you could run it from track or catenary

[joe cassidy]

Sorry Mick - I meant the EM2.

Best regards,


Joe

[PaulCheffus]

I think some people would buy an EM1 (me included) because of nostalgia for the Triang one.

Best regards,


Joe

Hi

It was Trix that made the EM1 not Tri-ang.

Cheers

Paul