shoreham air show - bad news

[MikeDunn]

>"knickerless actress"

I truss you have evidence to support this ?

What, you want a copy 

I'm sure a Google will bring back a plethora of results, although there are several obvious ones, eg the Lohan girl ...

[Tom U]

Guys please...some forms of thread drift are not appropriate !!

[bridgiesimon]

Great news, he's made contact so panic over.      

Really pleased to hear that!!

best wishes
Simon

[MalcolmInN]

Guys please...some forms of thread drift are not appropriate !!

I agree,
Malcolm behave yourself.

[NeMo]

For those interested, have a read of this document from the Civil Aviation Authority:

Civil Air Displays A Guide for Pilots

It's one of the clearest documents I've ever seen from a regulatory body.

The BBC are (inaccurately) reporting "bans" on aerobatic displays, when in fact the CAA have (sensibly) only placed a temporary ban on flying Hunters generally and also on high energy aerobatic displays (but not straightforward flybys and manoeuvres) until such time as they've established what went wrong.

They're reviewing risk assessments for upcoming shows, but not banning them, and leaving it to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch to establish what happened at Shoreham.

In other words, the CAA and AAIB are doing exactly what they're meant to do. I hope that the politicians stay right out of this, but I imagine they'll find it really difficult, what with their encyclopaedic knowledge of aerospace engineering.

Cheers, NeMo

[MikeDunn]

I'm sorry NeMo, but I really must pull you up for expecting "news" organisations to put mundane and unimportant things like so-called 'facts' get in the way of an emotive and glory-grabbing headline & 'report' ...

You should be ashamed ... 

[Trainfish]

I actually agree that these displays shouldn't happen near to a main road especially when they are held somewhere like Shoreham-by-Sea to give the place its full name and also to show there was another option, the sea. However, the reason I say this is nothing to do with what happened on Sunday and the likelihood of it happening again. The reason I say this is that they can also cause a distraction to drivers possibly leading to accidents between the vehicles themselves. Who can honestly say that if there was a display going on above/across the road they were driving on that they wouldn't be distracted and try to sneak a look at what the aircraft are doing? It's bad enough when there's an accident already on a road and the rubber neckers cause another through being distracted looking at it.

Just my thoughts on it as I know I would be tempted to look up rather than straight ahead.

[Bealman]

I'm a long way away, and actually the first I heard of this was via this forum. However, we are primarily a railway forum, and if we are to have discussion about what is basically a very, very tragic accident, I feel comments should be specific and not concerned with media interpretation, driver behaviour, etc.

No doubt the aviation authorities will be reviewing the airshow issue.

[Sprintex]

What we don't need is a knee-jerk response from government about banning airshows or something along those lines

Which knowing this country is exactly what will happen! Not a ban as such, but so many new rules and regulations that it won't be worth the hassle or expense putting a show on in the first place

And surprise surprise if this morning's front pages are to be believed that's exactly what's happened

No aerobatics over land and none involving vintage jets is what they're saying (although I haven't read any deeper, don't do newspapers), not worth bothering to organise then really. This country can be REALLY stupid at times, any other country this would just be called an 'accident' and that would be done with it!


Paul

[NeMo]

This country can be REALLY stupid at times, any other country this would just be called an 'accident' and that would be done with it!

No need to fear for the country just yet! If you read my post above, and follow the links therein, you'll see that happened is the Civil Aviation Authority has -- temporarily -- placed a ban on high-energy acrobatics (not basic flypasts and such) and grounded all Hawker Hunters. These two restrictions are sensible precautions that will be in place until the Air Accident Investigation Branch identify what went wrong, at which point the CAA will make appropriate changes to what happens at air shows, if necessary.

Air crashes are never allowed to be called accidents without the AAIB investigating them first. That's a global approach, not just something about the UK, and is part of the 'safety first' mentality that pervades air travel.

Cheers, NeMo

[MikeDunn]

if we are to have discussion about what is basically a very, very tragic accident, I feel comments should be specific and not concerned with media interpretation, driver behaviour, etc.

Strange ... I had thought we were within the description of this aspect ?

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[guest311]

some good news

fuselage was lifted yesterday, and removed to Farnborough for AAIB examination.

there are no reports so far of further victims being found, which had been feared.

[Bealman]

if we are to have discussion about what is basically a very, very tragic accident, I feel comments should be specific and not concerned with media interpretation, driver behaviour, etc.

Strange ... I had thought we were within the description of this aspect ?

General Discussion
Talk about anything here! Other gauges, hobbies, the weather...

We are a model railway forum. Yes, we have a general discussion area.

The airshow accident we refer to happened on Saturday.

I  really don't see how anything we as a forum can do except give witness if we were there.

It is now Tuesday.

[MikeDunn]

My apologies - I must have missed the rule about a 48-hour time limit on things 

[Agrippa]

I think this thread has run its course, there was plane crash, now
being investigated, speculation about causes and press bashing
a bit pointless.