Pullman train set up

[portland-docks]

ok im trying to work out how the new graham farish pullman cars are set up?

this train is made up of the pullman stove r from the n gauge society and the 5 pullman mk1s (amethyst, falcon, hadrian bar, car 334 and 349)...how would this train be set up like in what order?

i will be asking how i can set up my other passenger consists as i get my stock built up but start with this since its the first full set i have!

[jc92]

usually by class ie first class all at one end, second at the other, with kitchen coaches appropriate to class, and the hadrian bar in 1st class.

[portland-docks]

iv just been looking on ebay and saw 4 coaches i never knew were released, these are :-

"eagle", "347", "emerald" and "332"...where did these come from? :S

[jc92]

as an afterthought you could also add in a mk1 BG as this was also prototypical

[portland-docks]

a mk1 bg? you mean blue/grey?

[matt-b]

there is 3 pullman coaches down this page for £30...

http://www.raymansfieldmodelrailways.com/100230/info.php?p=12

[jc92]

a mk1 bg? you mean blue/grey?

or maroon, depends on the livery of your pullmans

[point blank]

a mk1 bg? you mean blue/grey?

I think the reference is to a vehicle type and not colour.
BG is a Brake Gangwayed vehicle.  Some say Brake Goods but it is what we used to call a full Brake i.e. the bogie mail or parcels vehicle with no seating area apart from a guards compartment usually marshalled at the end of a passenger train.

[Newportnobby]

there is 3 pullman coaches down this page for £30...

http://www.raymansfieldmodelrailways.com/100230/info.php?p=12

Matt - I had a look and I think they're gone because I couldn't see 'em
I notice he's advertising a Farish 4MT 2-5-0 

[PLD]

there is 3 pullman coaches down this page for £30...

http://www.raymansfieldmodelrailways.com/100230/info.php?p=12

I would suggest a little research before dealing with that character.

eg: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/9681-ray-mansfield-model-railways/ is entirely typical of feedback on various forums...

[scruff]

remember pullman cars usually worked in pairs, ie. kitchen first+parlour first.

HTH

Mark

[portland-docks]

so what order would you set this particular train up?

im hoping to win the auctions for those other 4 pullmans, would love to have them. anyone know where else i can get them?

and what would the train set up look like with them 4 added to the set?

[scruff]

I would marshall the rake of coaches as follows:

-Graham Farish 374-200b,mk1 first parlour, amethyst-
-Graham Farish 374-220,  mk1 Pullman first Kitchen, eagle-
-Graham Farish 374-200,  mk1 first parlour, emerald-
-Graham Farish 374-220b,  mk1 Pullman first Kitchen, falcon-
-Graham Farish 374-240 , mk1 bar second pullman, hadrian bar-
-Graham Farish 374-210,  mk1 second parlour, car 347-
-Graham Farish 374-230,  mk1 second kitchen, car 332-
-Graham Farish 374-210b, mk1 second parlour, car 349-
-Graham Farish 374-230b, mk1 second kitchen, car 334-
-Graham Farish 374-029/a/b/c, mk1 BG Or 374-038, new blue riband mk1 bg(due out Feb/March), chocolate and cream livery.

personally I would wait for the new brake coach, imho they are excellent and the old one won't do your pullmans justice.
Note the parlour and kitchen cars are marshalled as pairs with the kitchen area in the middle of the pair, so the waiters don't have far to walk with the food. First class at one end of the train, bar car in the middle to keep second class riff-raff out of first class, then second class, i think the brake could be at either end of the train.

Also available are the following matching mk1 pullmans from farish, released a while back, which may be useful if you want to extend the rake:
-Graham Farish 374-200a,  mk1 first parlour, Amber-
-Graham Farish 374-210a,  mk1 second parlour, car 348-
-Graham Farish 374-220a,  mk1 Pullman first Kitchen, Magpie-
-Graham Farish 374-230a,  mk1 second kitchen, car 333-

I included the catalogue numbers as a quick reference for you.

Also look at-  http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=2256.15

HTH

Mark

[portland-docks]

I would marshall the rake of coaches as follows:

-Graham Farish 374-200b,mk1 first parlour, amethyst-
-Graham Farish 374-220,  mk1 Pullman first Kitchen, eagle-
-Graham Farish 374-200,  mk1 first parlour, emerald-
-Graham Farish 374-220b,  mk1 Pullman first Kitchen, falcon-
-Graham Farish 374-240 , mk1 bar second pullman, hadrian bar-
-Graham Farish 374-210,  mk1 second parlour, car 347-
-Graham Farish 374-230,  mk1 second kitchen, car 332-
-Graham Farish 374-210b, mk1 second parlour, car 349-
-Graham Farish 374-230b, mk1 second kitchen, car 334-
-Graham Farish 374-029/a/b/c, mk1 BG Or 374-038, new blue riband mk1 bg(due out Feb/March), chocolate and cream livery.

personally I would wait for the new brake coach, imho they are excellent and the old one won't do your pullmans justice.
Note the parlour and kitchen cars are marshalled as pairs with the kitchen area in the middle of the pair, so the waiters don't have far to walk with the food. First class at one end of the train, bar car in the middle to keep second class riff-raff out of first class, then second class, i think the brake could be at either end of the train.

Also available are the following matching mk1 pullmans from farish, released a while back, which may be useful if you want to extend the rake:
-Graham Farish 374-200a,  mk1 first parlour, Amber-
-Graham Farish 374-210a,  mk1 second parlour, car 348-
-Graham Farish 374-220a,  mk1 Pullman first Kitchen, Magpie-
-Graham Farish 374-230a,  mk1 second kitchen, car 333-

I included the catalogue numbers as a quick reference for you.

Also look at-  http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=2256.15

HTH

Mark

hi mark thanks for that, so where can i get the missing pullmans you listed? apart from the 4 im watching on ebay, wheres the rest?

cheers

[scruff]

thats the £20 question...

watch ebay, try some of the smaller model shops who may still have older stock, i got an older wagon that way last week.. search the net, some may turn up in classifieds on forums or other auction sites. you could even try advertising for them in the wanted section.. just be careful you don't get mixed up with the OO versions.. OO catalogue numbers are 5 digits and maybe a letter. i.e. 12-123a. The Farish catalogue numbers are six digits. i.e. 123-123 plus maybe a letter. Remember not all advertisers get the details right though!

found this one in canada..
http://www.bsmcl.com/GrahamFarish.htm
this is not a recommendation and i have no affiliation to the seller at all though.

HTH

Mark