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Pre-grouping
« on: November 08, 2011, 05:35:24 PM »
Hi all, new to the forum and just starting out in N gauge properly after a slow delayed start - at the moment my stock consists of;

Peco starter setrack
Union Mills J27 0-6-0 (to be repainted in NER livery when I can do)
several Graham Farish NER Bogie vans
BH Enterprises white metal body kits for NER G5 0-4-4T and 1001 class 0-6-0
Judith Edge ES1 and EF1 bo-bo electric locomotive etched brass kits

My plan is to start a late Edwardian/WW1 North Eastern Railway layout, is anyone else out there building, or has, a pre-grouping era layout? I'm looking for suggestions on other rolling stock (carriages should be fairly interchangeable with a repaint) to acquire, and especially buildings and road vehicles etc

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Re: Pre-grouping
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 05:38:23 PM »
Welcome to the forum!  Your plans sound great, and I see you have plenty of kits to build. :thumbsup:

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Re: Pre-grouping
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 05:48:12 PM »
There's an old list of available models on the Goods and not so goods website, as well as tons of other information in the other sections.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/10-avmod/010-index.htm

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Re: Pre-grouping
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 07:50:51 PM »
BH Enterprises white metal body kits for NER G5 0-4-4T and 1001 class 0-6-0
Judith Edge ES1 and EF1 bo-bo electric locomotive etched brass kits

My plan is to start a late Edwardian/WW1 North Eastern Railway layout, is anyone else out there building, or has, a pre-grouping era layout? I'm looking for suggestions on other rolling stock (carriages should be fairly interchangeable with a repaint) to acquire, and especially buildings and road vehicles etc

I've been building a G5 and it's coming along nicely on the Dapol M7 chassis. The extra weight also means that unlike the M7 it'll pull stuff nicely. I've also built but not yet motorised a 1001.

My pregroup stuff is mostly LBSCR/LSWR coaches, wagons and locos and random bits of other stuff (I collect small black kit built 0-6-0 tank locomotives it seems). There are quite a few pre-group locos around in kit form (GNR N2 etc) and there is an N Gauge Society 'period 1-2' group that covers pre-grouping and has some handy stock tables.

For wagons you may want to look at joining the 2mm SA - especially if the idea of building things like the Judith Edge kits doesn't have you running screaming. The 2mm SA wagon range has a fair coverage of pre-group style wagons, chassis and the like almost all of which can be run on 'coarse' (ie N scale) track with the N scale conversion wheels the 2mm SA also sells.

I've not found a big shortage of road vehicles for the period (well horse mostly) and some of them like the shire scenes ones are masterpieces in brass.

Alan
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Re: Pre-grouping
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 09:17:25 PM »
If you're a Member of the N Gauge Society, there's a Pre Grouping section you can sign-up to:

http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=area-groups#era1+2


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Re: Pre-grouping
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 08:50:26 AM »
The G5(NER O) body can also be used to make a fair representation of the NER Class B, N or U 0-6-2Ts, mounted on a Farish Jinty chassis (probably best to reduce the front splasher for the U). Being a narrow chassis you don't need to take the thickness of metal out of the side tanks as you do with the Dapol M7 chassis (the latter looks better under the G5 than the M7 anyway, because of the smaller wheels).
Highfield (the originators of the old G5/O kit) once did printed card kits for an NER clerestory coach and 4 wheeler. There are some etched 2mm scale NER coaches available, I believe.

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Re: Pre-grouping
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 04:51:04 PM »
BH Enterprises white metal body kits for NER G5 0-4-4T and 1001 class 0-6-0
Judith Edge ES1 and EF1 bo-bo electric locomotive etched brass kits

My plan is to start a late Edwardian/WW1 North Eastern Railway layout, is anyone else out there building, or has, a pre-grouping era layout? I'm looking for suggestions on other rolling stock (carriages should be fairly interchangeable with a repaint) to acquire, and especially buildings and road vehicles etc

I've been building a G5 and it's coming along nicely on the Dapol M7 chassis. The extra weight also means that unlike the M7 it'll pull stuff nicely. I've also built but not yet motorised a 1001.

My pregroup stuff is mostly LBSCR/LSWR coaches, wagons and locos and random bits of other stuff (I collect small black kit built 0-6-0 tank locomotives it seems). There are quite a few pre-group locos around in kit form (GNR N2 etc) and there is an N Gauge Society 'period 1-2' group that covers pre-grouping and has some handy stock tables.

For wagons you may want to look at joining the 2mm SA - especially if the idea of building things like the Judith Edge kits doesn't have you running screaming. The 2mm SA wagon range has a fair coverage of pre-group style wagons, chassis and the like almost all of which can be run on 'coarse' (ie N scale) track with the N scale conversion wheels the 2mm SA also sells.

I've not found a big shortage of road vehicles for the period (well horse mostly) and some of them like the shire scenes ones are masterpieces in brass.

Alan


Thanks Alan, how much metal did you have to take out of the G5 body to fit the M7 chassis? As Bernard TPM has mentioned, i'm considering putting it on an 0-6-0 chassis.

I have to say the Judith Edge kits do look terrifying - I have a BH Enterprises Birdcage brake van to get me sorted, if I panic too much with the Judith Edge kits I may save up and have them built for me, although would rather do them myself. I'd like to motorise the EF1 but will most likely have the ES1 as a non-runner

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Re: Pre-grouping
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 02:53:40 PM »
The side of the tanks needs thinning on the inside (quick work with a woodworking file will soon do that). The harder bit is that you need to groove the bottom of the smokebox/boiler casting so the worm fits in. That is probably easy with a dremmel but I didn't have one so I drilled it about right and then the one or two spots I didn't quite have clearance the worm itself smoothed on the first few laps (soft metal ...)

Alan
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