CCT vans

[mickey26]

I am trying to increase my rollingstock. Can someone please tell me what is a CCT van? What do the letters stand for and what are they used for?  :thankyousign:Mickey 26.

[Claude Dreyfus]

I am trying to increase my rollingstock. Can someone please tell me what is a CCT van? What do the letters stand for and what are they used for?  :thankyousign:Mickey 26.

Covered Carriage Truck.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covered_Carriage_Truck

They were used for all sorts of duties...particularly parcels.

[Leo1961]

I am trying to increase my rollingstock. Can someone please tell me what is a CCT van? What do the letters stand for and what are they used for?  :thankyousign:Mickey 26.

Try this link 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covered_Carriage_Truck

[EtchedPixels]

I am trying to increase my rollingstock. Can someone please tell me what is a CCT van? What do the letters stand for and what are they used for?  :thankyousign:Mickey 26.

Covered Carriage Truck

Way back when posh people used to have their personal horse carriage conveyed with them, and their servants and horses. For this open flat wagons called 'carriage trucks' were designed.

Carriage trucks got used to carry everything from his Lordships carriage to farm machinery and even artillery pieces.

Over time covered ones appeared with end loading doors 'covered carriage truck' (CCT).

CCT normally implies the vehicle has wide end loading doors so you could in theory drive a car onto it while a "van" typically only loads from the side.

Alan

[mickey26]

Thanks Alan & Claude. I thought maybe parcels, but maybe a designated parcels van - Express Parcels - would be better.  Or, -Rule 1 - a 35T Railfreight sideloading van hooked behind the early morning passenger train. I've learned something anyway. Thanks. Mickey26

[EtchedPixels]

Most CCT vehicles also had side doors, so their CCT designation in no way precluded them from being used as normal vans.

[port perran]

I think you can justifiably use a CCT in a parcels train. All sorts of vehicles were used in parcel train formation and I'm fairly certain that CCTs were no exception.

[joe cassidy]

Presumably at some point in time, when the gentry no longer had carriages, the only use for CCTs was parcels ?

Best regards,


Joe

[NeMo]

Presumably at some point in time, when the gentry no longer had carriages, the only use for CCTs was parcels ?

That would be assumption, too. Seen lots of photos of full brakes, GUVs and CCTs all jumbled up in the same parcels train. So far as I know, only the Southern Railway version of the CCT is currently available ready to run, but Farish have a BR version in preparation, I'm told.

Cheers, NeMo

[EtchedPixels]

Presumably at some point in time, when the gentry no longer had carriages, the only use for CCTs was parcels ?

Motor cars. In fact  many CCT vehicles were designed for that use. Motorail type services really took off in the 1930s. In the 1960s the carflats toook over some of the traffic, in particular because they could be loaded more efficiently.

A lot of CCTs would have been mostly used for other freight traffic, not just parcels but for many years another staple - newspaper trains. The fact that a CCT could be end-loaded allowed them to carry all sorts of loads (even elephants), but they would carry "conventional" traffic just like any other van.


Alan

[Newportnobby]

The fact that a CCT could be end-loaded allowed them to carry all sorts of loads (even elephants), but they would carry "conventional" traffic just like any other van.


Alan

Presumably only found on trunk routes

[bluedepot]

i like these vans... but I think most had gone by the mid 80s so i'll probably not bother getting any.

[Southernboy]

If anyone is interested there's a 16 page article on such vans in the latest edition of The Southern Way (issue no 25). It covers the history, has quite a few pictures, and a couple of diagrammes.

[daveg]

Were they used in rakes or just in ones and twos with passenger traffic?

Dave G

[EtchedPixels]

In earlier days both, a few vans even got wired for push pull usage. In more modern times four and six wheelers got banned from passenger services.