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Offline samoyd

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Forth Rail Bridge
« on: January 08, 2014, 12:17:21 AM »
Hello all,
             I have decided to go N gauge and was wandering if anyone or knows any one who has modeled
The Forth Rail Bridge in N gauge or give advice on how it could be accomplished as I would like to make this
a backdrop on a second level and running trains in a loop over it.
The total length of the actual bridge is 8,296 feet long which i myself have worked out at 56" long
but I do not know if that is correct. I have asked at local hobby shops but no one seem to be able to help.
So here's hoping as I would like to create this as I do not know if anyone has done this.
                                   Thank you for your future indulgence.
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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2014, 12:24:32 AM »
It would need to be 673 inches long at N scale which is more like 56 feet rather than inches. Would fit in the garden with a helix to get up to it?

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2014, 12:43:51 AM »
One of my favourite places , but as ParkNd has stated rather large, apart from the bridge itselfthe approaches run for a large distance either side and on the Queensferry side (south) the track goes on high piers until it meets the bridge proper so I think any layout involving the bridgewould have to make compromises or else need a huge space to be authentic.
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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2014, 01:07:23 AM »
As someone who grew up 10 miles away and knows the bridge well I would say good luck.  Plenty of plastruct girder strip required but very do-able.   It is some sight.

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 01:11:16 AM »
As someone who grew up 10 miles away and knows the bridge well I would say good luck.  Plenty of plastruct girder strip required but very do-able.   It is some sight.

Probably a job for James May and Mecanno.

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 01:19:54 AM »
If I was Mr May I'd nip into the Hawes for a glass or two before getting the Lego out !

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2014, 03:32:21 AM »
If I were Mr May I'd need 15 hairdressers and a production team to get me there.  Never mind someone to tell me what it is when I arrive.  He'd still have bad hair and not know what it was when he got wherever.

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2014, 08:39:29 AM »
That would be an amazing project, maybe just take one span and model that, not sure if that would still give you the image your after though, I suppose the whole magic of the bridge is it's size and puzzle of steel.

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2014, 10:07:39 AM »
If I was going for an authentic bridge I would consider Brunel's at Saltash, quite a bit shorter and maybe would still look impressive with just one main span. The Fourth bridge looks great but I don't think it could be shortened and retain its majesty.

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2014, 10:23:52 AM »
The original Severn Railway bridge in its current form would be both suitable to model and operationally appealing to kids who like Scaletrix crashes and the like. One short span and straight into the river.
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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2014, 11:22:58 AM »
The bridge at Connel near Oban (now a road bridge) was built about the same time as
the Forth bridge , or possibly slightly earlier and would be easier to model as it's much smaller though of cantilever design.
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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2014, 02:34:44 PM »
Realistically you could model the Forth Rail Bridge in T Scale http://www.tgauge.com/ 1:450 scale. They have a demonstration layout which uses Glenfinnan Viaduct and is very impressive if you want to see a railway in relation to the wider environment.

I suggeted they did The Forth Bridge quite a while ago, so far no evidence of it though.....
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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2014, 02:53:29 PM »
Give you an idea of its size:

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2014, 03:52:06 PM »
Scaled down even the centre section is 11' 6" long :o

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Re: Forth Rail Bridge
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2014, 05:34:00 PM »
Scaled down even the centre section is 11' 6" long :o

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Thats more practical. Should fit into an approx 18ft layout.

Since the orginal proposal I have converted the new Severn Bridge (not the M48 one) dimensions to N gauge dimensions. The prototype is 3.5 miles long and would make a 124.8 ft long model. Plus of course fiddle yards at each end.

Would suggest not a roundy roundy because even for a car this year it is free from Wales into England and 6.40 from England into Wales. It's just under 20 for a lorry so heaven knows what that would cost for a train. However much that scales up to you would only want to go to England - so an end to end with no return seems appropriate.


Usual comments about who the heck would want to pay to get into Wales on a postcard please.

Postscript :  Before every forum member who lives in Cardiff, Swansea, Newport, Pontypridd etc attacks me - I live in Wales (despite being English to the core)!!
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