!!

Not Registered?

Welcome!  Please register to view all of the new posts and forum boards - some of which are hidden to guests.  After registering and gaining 10 posts you will be able to sell and buy items on our N'porium.

If you have any problems registering, then please check your spam filter before emailing us.  Hotmail users seem to find their emails in the Junk folder.


Thanks for reading,
The NGF Staff.

Author Topic: GWR O.13 Milk Brake  (Read 9509 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline EtchedPixels

  • Advertiser
  • Trade Count: (+44)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 16353
  • 2mm Association Number: 4412
  • Posts: 8382
  • Country: wales
  • Gender: Male
    • Ebay
    • Google+
    • Twitter
    • YouTube
    • Etched Pixels
    • Awards
GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« on: March 01, 2013, 01:53:47 PM »
Matthew Pinto asked me to look into producing the O.13 milk brake, and he also figured out it could be plonked straight and accurately onto the old Farish four wheel coach chassis (the one you have spare from putting the body on a Stove-R six wheel chassis  :D)

They were built in 1921, apparently from WW1 pharmacy cars (although this is disputed in some circles) and lasted until the 1960s, ending their lives in departmental service including brakedown trains, with one (1399) going to the Severn Valley afterwards.

http://www.steampicturelibrary.com/low.php?xp=media&xm=510916

http://www.flickr.com/photos/svr_enthusiast/4001102402/#

I've worked through the drawings and come up with a design for a kit which would consist of the following.

Polished 3D printed shell with pre-formed ventilator holes
Etched sides to glue on for body plus doors, plus guards door
Etched ends to glue on (one layer for plain two layers including steps for other)
Glue on Trussing and V hangar
Gas cylinder
Vacuum cylinder
Ventilators

The price would be 20 for the kit (not including the chassis). But in order to get that price we would need to sell a minimum of 10 kits.

We are not looking for deposits or anything at this stage but would welcome expressions of interest to see if prodution is going to be feasible.

Please let Matthew or me know if you would be interested in buying one (or more ;) ).

Alan
"Knowledge has no value or use for the solitary owner: to be enjoyed it must be communicated" -- Charles Pratt, 1st Earl Camden

Offline GrahamB

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1085
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 04:03:17 PM »
I'd be interested although I'm now kicking myself for disposing of the last of my four wheel carriages  :doh:

Wonder if there's an alternative chassis.

Offline EtchedPixels

  • Advertiser
  • Trade Count: (+44)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 16353
  • 2mm Association Number: 4412
  • Posts: 8382
  • Country: wales
  • Gender: Male
    • Ebay
    • Google+
    • Twitter
    • YouTube
    • Etched Pixels
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 04:12:37 PM »
Two Peco 15' wagon chassis a hacksaw and some plasticard ought to work. Take one of the chassis saw it in half and splice in a bit of the other one. Remove all the surplus details and glue together with some sort of strengthener then add the footboards.

Alan
"Knowledge has no value or use for the solitary owner: to be enjoyed it must be communicated" -- Charles Pratt, 1st Earl Camden

Offline Jerry Howlett

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 11284
  • Posts: 2845
  • Country: it
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 04:20:38 PM »
How about the shredded wheat carriage chassis?  No suitable coupling but though I am not into said design I have one if anybody wants it.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2013, 07:40:36 PM by Jerry Howlett, Reason: grammer »
Some days its just not worth gnawing through the straps.

Offline GerryB

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23312
  • Posts: 104
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 05:39:02 PM »
I would certainly be interested in one, Alan.

Gerry

Offline Karhedron

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 19444
  • Posts: 2426
  • Country: 00
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 08:55:39 PM »
Quite promising. Between replies on here and on the N gauge yahoo group, we are up to 6.

Just 4 more to go for a viable run.  :claphappy:
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

Offline Sea Mills

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 21444
  • Posts: 121
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 09:07:35 PM »
I might be interested, but know nothing about the prototype.   Why would milk trains need a special brake?   However, I love the look of the SVR example and would consider buying one for departmental use.

David

Offline Karhedron

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 19444
  • Posts: 2426
  • Country: 00
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 09:15:06 PM »
I might be interested, but know nothing about the prototype.   Why would milk trains need a special brake?   However, I love the look of the SVR example and would consider buying one for departmental use.
Milk trains needed special brake vehicles because they ran at express passenger speeds, otherwise the milk would have gone off by the time it arrived. A Toad would not be rated to run that fast.

One option (which was used widely) was to use an old full-brake that had been cascaded down from express services. However this could be wasteful as a Milk train rarely carried much in the way of luggage or parcels so most of the vehicle was empty.

So the GWR built some small brake vehicles specifically for the purpose. They provided accomodation for the Guard but not much else. (The LMS and LNER both built compact 6-wheeled brakes for these sorts of duties).

I have only found one shot of W1399 in departmental use but it does not seem to have been modified, just painted grey.

If there is demand, I can enquire about getting some transfers made up to suit.
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

Offline steam-driven boy

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 16277
  • 2mm Association Number: 4524
  • Posts: 291
  • Country: gb
  • Hey! I'm just this guy, y'know?
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 09:15:42 PM »
Hi,
I'm certainly up for one, I've a big 'to do' drawer that needs feeding  :-[

Regards, Gerry.
...being a bear of very little brain...
Solsbury Hill Layout: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6978.0

Offline GerryB

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23312
  • Posts: 104
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 07:52:54 AM »

If there is demand, I can enquire about getting some transfers made up to suit.

That would make life much easier, and would be much appreciated.  :thumbsup:

Gerry

Offline Tim E

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 22032
  • Posts: 74
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • YouTube
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 08:25:51 AM »
I would also be interested in one for departmental use.  Add me to the list  :thumbsup:

Offline alibuchan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 348
  • Country: gb
    • My page on shapeways
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2013, 06:57:46 PM »
Hi,

Put me down for one.

Cheers

Alistair

Offline Karhedron

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 19444
  • Posts: 2426
  • Country: 00
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2013, 09:03:48 PM »
If there is demand, I can enquire about getting some transfers made up to suit.

Looks like Cambridge Custom Transfers already produce a sheet for these vehicles. Sheet C85.

http://www.cctrans.freeserve.co.uk/products.htm
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

Offline ToothFairy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 19950
  • Posts: 69
  • Country: au
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2013, 07:25:32 AM »
If you're willing to ship to the antipodes, put me down for one (and of course I'll pay postage).

- Michael

Offline Karhedron

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 19444
  • Posts: 2426
  • Country: 00
    • Awards
Re: GWR O.13 Milk Brake
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2013, 09:31:47 AM »
If you're willing to ship to the antipodes, put me down for one (and of course I'll pay postage).
Sounds fair enough.
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

 

Please Support Us!
April Goal: £60.00
Due Date: Apr 30
Total Receipts: £30.00
Below Goal: £30.00
Site Currency: GBP
50% 
April Donations

anything
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal