Mk1 BR coaches 1969-70

[Caz]

Welcome to the friendly forum Keith, SR not my forte but there are quite a few on here who can help so you should get all the help you'll need in your quest.

[Bob G]

Hello

A good read is the following website: http://www.semgonline.com/

As a proper southern modeller of the eras 1958-68 (transition steam and diesel) and 1968-88 (corporate blue mostly post TOPs), and someone who was a trainspotter in the early 70s, I should be able to help.

Diesels on the Southern by John Vaughan (ISBN 0 7110 0989 9) is a 1979 masterpiece of information for you. That book topped up with my knowledge gives you this to choose from.

03s in Poole/Bournemouth/Southampton Docks/Eastleigh and Wimbledon areas early 1960s in green and 1970s blue (Farish)
04s in Southampton Docks/Eastleigh areas 1959 black to 1974 blue livery (Farish)
05 on Isle of Wight (BHE kit)
07 Southampton Docks and  Eastleigh trip freights (Etched Pixels kit on 04 chassis)
08/09 everywhere on Southern (Farish)
Maunsell shunter kit (Parkwood, fits Farish 08) ideal for Hither Green / Norwood area from pre-WW2 to about 1960 (BR black), and to 1964 (BR green) livery.

15/16 on trip freights early 1960s to 1968 from the eastern region around Hither Green and Clapham (Parkwood kits on old Farish 20 chassis)
20 ditto but very rarely seen (Farish)
24 Class 24/0 in green with no yellow panels 1959-1962 in Kent Coast area and with yellow panels in mid 1960s Clapham/Hither Green areas (trip freights from Cricklewood/Willesden) (Farish)
25/2 in green, 25/3 in two tone green, and 25/3 in blue as above from mid 1960s  as above (Farish)
27 in green on trip freights from Cricklewood/Willesden to South London early to mid 1960s (Dapol)
31 mostly on specials only in green, or rare trip freights as above. 31s in blue on Bristol-Portsmouth run 1977 on. (Farish)
33 everywhere. 33/1 post 1967 in west of the region, mostly around Waterloo-Weymouth line. 33/2 narrow bodied for Hastings line. (Dapol)
35 Hymek mostly on Bristol - Portsmouth and occasional forages to Guildford in green 1960s livery, even more restricted in Blue livery to Weymouth - Basingstoke and north (Dapol)
37 unseen to very rare in green. Coal trains (old mineral wagons from East Midlands coalfields) around south London in mid 1970s in blue, especially Stratford's split headcode blue version. Double headed on Yeoman aggregate trains late 1970s (Cardiff based centre headcode versions).
40 unseen to very rare specials only.
42/43 Warship on Waterloo-Exeter and Bournemouth - North of England trains through Reading from 1965. Green/Maroon/Blue. (Farish)
45 Peak in green/early blue on Bournemouth - North of England and also Ramsgate - North of England hauling mix of b/grey and maroon Mk 1s in the late 1960s/early 70s era.
45/46 on coal trains in South London (from East Midlands coalfields) and Fareham/Botley Yeoman aggregate run (Farish)
47 in green on Waterloo - Bournemouth Belle 1967 on, and Bournemouth - North of England trains 1967 on. Once in blue almost anywhere on freight. (Farish)
50 in blue rare apart from taking over from the 33s on Waterloo-Exeter run (33s took over from Warships in 1972) (Farish discontinued, Dapol promised)
52 Western - Yeoman aggregate trains to Fareham/Botley and around Redhill area. Almost always in the BR Blue era (1974 on). Lots of activity around Acton to Norwood in 1976. Rare appearance on Wolverhampton-Bournemouth trip in 1964 in maroon. (Dapol).
55 Deltic - no chance apart from Man of Kent railtour 1978. (Farish)
73 - like 33 everywhere. (Dapol)

Class 117 DMUs from WR could be seen on excursions to south coast in green era, and on Reading -Redhill run occasionally, later to be replaced by GRCW Class 119s in blue grey.
Portsmouth-Cardiff run was in hands of class 117/118/119/101 sourced from Bristol from about 1972-77, displacing hymeks, and displaced themselves by Bristol class 31/4s in 1977.
The 3 car 108s are the closest you will get right now to the WR DMUs that use to appear. BHE and Worsley Works do kits for the 2H/3H (Hampshire and Berkshire units and 3D East Sussex DEMUs (mostly Oxted Line but occasionally out to Kent via London Bridge) that you would want to run.

That's your lot I'm afraid.
Its a great time if you want to model cross London trip freights as you can have classes 24/25/27 making an appearance from Willesden/Cricklewood and classes 15/16/31 from Stratford.
But not great for a split headcode 37 in green. (didn't stop me buying one though  )
You can also justify a green or early blue peak to run alongside your essential Farish 4CEP units and essential Dapol 33s and 73s.

HTH
Bob

[KeithR]

Hello

A good read is the following website: http://www.semgonline.com/

As a proper southern modeller of the eras 1958-68 (transition steam and diesel) and 1968-88 (corporate blue mostly post TOPs), and someone who was a trainspotter in the early 70s, I should be able to help.

Diesels on the Southern by John Vaughan (ISBN 0 7110 0989 9) is a 1979 masterpiece of information for you. That book topped up with my knowledge gives you this to choose from.

03s in Poole/Bournemouth/Southampton Docks/Eastleigh and Wimbledon areas early 1960s in green and 1970s blue (Farish)
04s in Southampton Docks/Eastleigh areas 1959 black to 1974 blue livery (Farish)
05 on Isle of Wight (BHE kit)
07 Southampton Docks and  Eastleigh trip freights (Etched Pixels kit on 04 chassis)
08/09 everywhere on Southern (Farish)
Maunsell shunter kit (Parkwood, fits Farish 08) ideal for Hither Green / Norwood area from pre-WW2 to about 1960 (BR black), and to 1964 (BR green) livery.

15/16 on trip freights early 1960s to 1968 from the eastern region around Hither Green and Clapham (Parkwood kits on old Farish 20 chassis)
20 ditto but very rarely seen (Farish)
24 Class 24/0 in green with no yellow panels 1959-1962 in Kent Coast area and with yellow panels in mid 1960s Clapham/Hither Green areas (trip freights from Cricklewood/Willesden) (Farish)
25/2 in green, 25/3 in two tone green, and 25/3 in blue as above from mid 1960s  as above (Farish)
27 in green on trip freights from Cricklewood/Willesden to South London early to mid 1960s (Dapol)
31 mostly on specials only in green, or rare trip freights as above. 31s in blue on Bristol-Portsmouth run 1977 on. (Farish)
33 everywhere. 33/1 post 1967 in west of the region, mostly around Waterloo-Weymouth line. 33/2 narrow bodied for Hastings line. (Dapol)
35 Hymek mostly on Bristol - Portsmouth and occasional forages to Guildford in green 1960s livery, even more restricted in Blue livery to Weymouth - Basingstoke and north (Dapol)
37 unseen to very rare in green. Coal trains (old mineral wagons from East Midlands coalfields) around south London in mid 1970s in blue, especially Stratford's split headcode blue version. Double headed on Yeoman aggregate trains late 1970s (Cardiff based centre headcode versions).
40 unseen to very rare specials only.
42/43 Warship on Waterloo-Exeter and Bournemouth - North of England trains through Reading from 1965. Green/Maroon/Blue. (Farish)
45 Peak in green/early blue on Bournemouth - North of England and also Ramsgate - North of England hauling mix of b/grey and maroon Mk 1s in the late 1960s/early 70s era.
45/46 on coal trains in South London (from East Midlands coalfields) and Fareham/Botley Yeoman aggregate run (Farish)
47 in green on Waterloo - Bournemouth Belle 1967 on, and Bournemouth - North of England trains 1967 on. Once in blue almost anywhere on freight. (Farish)
50 in blue rare apart from taking over from the 33s on Waterloo-Exeter run (33s took over from Warships in 1972) (Farish discontinued, Dapol promised)
52 Western - Yeoman aggregate trains to Fareham/Botley and around Redhill area. Almost always in the BR Blue era (1974 on). Lots of activity around Acton to Norwood in 1976. Rare appearance on Wolverhampton-Bournemouth trip in 1964 in maroon. (Dapol).
55 Deltic - no chance apart from Man of Kent railtour 1978. (Farish)
73 - like 33 everywhere. (Dapol)

Class 117 DMUs from WR could be seen on excursions to south coast in green era, and on Reading -Redhill run occasionally, later to be replaced by GRCW Class 119s in blue grey.
Portsmouth-Cardiff run was in hands of class 117/118/119/101 sourced from Bristol from about 1972-77, displacing hymeks, and displaced themselves by Bristol class 31/4s in 1977.
The 3 car 108s are the closest you will get right now to the WR DMUs that use to appear. BHE and Worsley Works do kits for the 2H/3H (Hampshire and Berkshire units and 3D East Sussex DEMUs (mostly Oxted Line but occasionally out to Kent via London Bridge) that you would want to run.

That's your lot I'm afraid.
Its a great time if you want to model cross London trip freights as you can have classes 24/25/27 making an appearance from Willesden/Cricklewood and classes 15/16/31 from Stratford.
But not great for a split headcode 37 in green. (didn't stop me buying one though  )
You can also justify a green or early blue peak to run alongside your essential Farish 4CEP units and essential Dapol 33s and 73s.

HTH
Bob

Cheers Bob.Plenty of info for me to look at.Thanks for taking the time.I can see that i will have to have a lot of artistic license,as i love 37's and 22's.

Regards
Keith