Quote from: Newportnobby on Yesterday at 06:23:15 PMOh no, please don't start another wish list thread

"The list of classes of loco not yet produced is getting smaller along with the size of those classes. The chances of getting 'one offs' such as 'Lion', 'Kestrel' etc are virtually nil."

you never know--one might just take notice.

Quote from: Bigmac on Yesterday at 05:59:07 PMi still cant understand why the larger n gauge manufacturers dont go all in for a really sure fire popular model that hasnt been produced before. IN my case it would be ex lms princess, or a patriot.  Ex GW would be King or county. Southern would be a Nelson. I dont model eastern region.
Of these i think a King produced in high volume and attractively priced would be a world wide best seller.

The King has actually been produced already as a RTR model, it was one of the last of the Poole produced designs, but after takeover by Bachmann a further improved run was done from what was essentially the same tooling.

A new tool King was mooted by DJM, but never got beyond a CAD, it was proposed again by KR Models as a first venture into N, but again never seemed to gain that much traction in terms of interest (maybe partly at least because it wasn't seemingly all that well promoted) so I would (personal opinion only) be very surprised to see one produced anytime soon.

I won't go over what has already been said about production quantities again because it has already been explained why quantities are decided at the way they are, and why producing a higher volumes doesn't work for the N market, which although the second most popular scale in the UK after OO is obviously nowhere near as big.

Regards

Roy

Quote from: Bigmac on Yesterday at 05:59:07 PMOf these i think a King produced in high volume and attractively priced would be a world wide best seller.

I doubt 1% of UK stock is sold abroad. The idea that any model could be a "world wide best seller" is utterly misguided IMO. The King seems a weak example too, given the failures that have been cited.

Quote from: Newportnobby on Yesterday at 06:23:15 PMOh no, please don't start another wish list thread

Yes, when these recent posts are compared to the title of this thread, there's no correlation!

Quote from: Bigmac on Yesterday at 05:59:07 PMOf these i think a King produced in high volume and attractively priced would be a world wide best seller.

Evidence of response to recent calls for "Expression of Interest" have proved that a 'King' is actually less desired by N-gauge modellers than London Underground Stock!
Unless you can provide hard evidence that the lack of interest was solely due to widespread aversion to the 3 promoters of Kings (DJ Models, Hattons, KR Models) and conversely acceptance of Revolution (the only differentiating factor) then it has to be accepted that the supposed 'Demand' for a king is actually a very small albeit rather vocal cohort...

Kings, like several other large steam locomotives, could only be used on a very small number of main line routes.(3 in the case of the kings). As a result any modeller of authentic 'lesser' routes naturally looks to buying smaller, less grand locos.