Quote from: tunneroner61 on August 07, 2020, 09:28:07 PMAs a (G)WR fan I find that some of the attitudes expressed in this thread very negative. As N gauge modelers we should welcome all manufacturers initiatives to bring new models to market not deride them because of a livery issue or not our interest area. These models may not be what interests you but I would whole heartedly support the efforts made to bring  to market previously unlikely models. We all want N gauge to develop so please give support where required.

Norman

There seems to be a lot of "naysayers" and negativity in general on forums these days.
Besides that the GWR isn't a popular choice anymore, far too many Western branch lines model railways have been made over the years.

I would buy one and in GWR flavour.

Only just found this thread.  With my Scottish interests a 16XX would interest me.  2 were sent to Helmsdale to run the branch line The Mound to Dornoch when the older 044T broke an axle or something like that.

Well, as this thread started in 2020 and Model Rail have shown no sign of producing the locos in N throughout the last five years then the naysayers may have a point.

Personally I felt that both the J70 and 16xx would have been marginal in N, and that offering a shrunk version of their exclusive Y1/Y3 Sentinel would have sold better (can offer it in all Big Four liveries plus BR & private owners, looks "cute", hits the same niche as the NGS Hunslet shunter but for an earlier time period.)

Quote from: Richard Taylor on Yesterday at 10:47:05 AMWell, as this thread started in 2020 and Model Rail have shown no sign of producing the locos in N throughout the last five years then the naysayers may have a point.

Personally I felt that both the J70 and 16xx would have been marginal in N, and that offering a shrunk version of their exclusive Y1/Y3 Sentinel would have sold better (can offer it in all Big Four liveries plus BR & private owners, looks "cute", hits the same niche as the NGS Hunslet shunter but for an earlier time period.)

I too have long thought that the Y1/Y3 would be a good choice, and possibly one for the NGS to do as a follow on from the Hunslet. However, I suspect the reality is that we will see no more NGS RTR projects of any description announced until the much delayed RTR Cowans cranes see the light of day, which seems to still be a long way off (the cynic in me thinking "if they ever even do"), off topic I appreciate, but every time I ask about them, no clarity or assurance can be given about timescales, and it will be the first and last time I make a "contribution" up front for an NGS RTR project.

Would Dapol (who have made one in O and the OO one as a commission for Model Rail) consider one? I suspect with a number of new tool models in the pipeline at present that would be unlikely.

Roy

Maybe it's time for a new poll? To see what N gauge modellers feel what they want to see. It feels like N gauge is in a state of limbo with manufacturers not knowing what to produce.

Rob.

A poll doesn't tell you much without a price attached.

Lots of people wanted Virgin Mark II coaches. Rather less of them wanted to pay forty quid for one 

We already know what the price is going to be, it's going to be ridiculously expensive. And it will be sold as a limited batch so people are going to pay for it regardless.
But if it is something that someone really, really wants then they will pay for it.

Rob.

Quote from: Jollybob on Today at 12:08:58 AMWe already know what the price is going to be, it's going to be ridiculously expensive. And it will be sold as a limited batch so people are going to pay for it regardless.
But if it is something that someone really, really wants then they will pay for it.

Rob.

If a limited batch then inevitably the cost would be higher, as the smaller the production volume the more unit cost for each one will be. "Ridiculously expensive" is subjective, the person commissioning the model would need to at the very least cover their costs as will everyone else in the supply chain, but ideally make a return.

To take the example of the NGS Hunslet (albeit I understand 4,500 were made across the liveries) nobody could ever say that £82 (to members only) is ridiculously expensive, for a model with DCC and "stay alive" on board it is an absolute bargain and easily worth the cost of membership on top without taking any other NGS benefits into consideration so it really does depend on the business model of the person or company supplying it.

Where I kind of agree is that someone will pay a premium for a model they really want, but the key is to find a product where enough people will do that, but also price isn't totally elastic, there will always be a point at which too many potential customers will pass.

Roy

I must admit a J70 would be quite appealing and a great boon to Thomas fans who would like something closer to scale.

Quote from: Adam1701D on Today at 10:33:44 AMI must admit a J70 would be quite appealing and a great boon to Thomas fans who would like something closer to scale.

A J70 would fit quite nicely alongside a range that also include a Terrier (Stepney), a 57xx (Duck), 14xx (Oliver), A1 (Gordon), A4 (Spencer) and class 35 (Bear)...

Or perhaps a range that had Bo-Co in N and a J40 plus matching coaches in OO?

Quote from: Jollybob on Today at 12:08:58 AMWe already know what the price is going to be, it's going to be ridiculously expensive. And it will be sold as a limited batch so people are going to pay for it regardless.
But if it is something that someone really, really wants then they will pay for it.

Rob.

Given that it was floated over 5 years ago and after that initial request for expressions of interest there has been no further mention or follow-up, I think we can confidently say that there will be the VERY Limited batch size of ZERO at the bargain price of Zero!!

I'm not entirely sure why someone has suddenly chosen to resurrect this thread after 5 years for a barely related grumble about Anti GWR bias... 

Quote from: EtchedPixels on Yesterday at 10:26:31 PMA poll doesn't tell you much without a price attached.

Lots of people wanted Virgin Mark II coaches. Rather less of them wanted to pay forty quid for one 

Only £40? More likely to be around £50!    And that is at today's (Dec 2025) prices.