How many were ever made ?

How many are still out there--in one form or another ?

Ive got 8 of them

I've no idea of actual numbers, but I often see 2nd hand ones for sale at exhibitions.

Quote from: Bigmac on Yesterday at 06:01:07 PMHow many were ever made ?
How many are still out there--in one form or another ?
Ive got 8 of them

Greedy so-and-so - I only have three 

They must have been made in reasonably large numbers.  Peco also must have ordered a lot of spares - now with Peters Spares. Some spare parts numbered in the hundreds.

The frequency with which they turn up on ebay also seems to indicate they're not rare.

The jubilee was a lovely loco in its day - definitely the Rolls Royce of British N in the 1970s. It's great that so many have lasted well despite the weakness of the motor and the tendency for tender frames to go brittle or the metal block to blow and crack the bodyshell.    With the advent of coreless motor kits the motor issue isn't such a concern now.

Since I moved from British to European N and sold off my original fleet in the early 80s, I've re-acquired two or three for sentimental reasons

An antiques/ second hand shop dealing mainly in toys near me had five for sale in the shop window last week...

Martyn

I have one and so does the club I'm a member of. I converted both to coreless using a 1015 motor+worm from Tramfabriek and a sleeve which was 3D printed by a club member. Both are DCC fitted and run regularly. I purchased a new tender chassis for mine from Peter's Spares; pity new wheel sets are not available as well.

Mine got hacked to a Lord Nelson class as did a Scot, both had hacked BHE N15 tenders with Union Mills drive

I got one for old time's sake

I have two, "Kolhapur" and "Bellerophron" both expertly repainted for me into BR lined green livery in the late 1990s by the sadly now late Fred Hempsall and they look exquisite. A mystery why Peco never produced the loco in BR green, I have heard stories (unconfirmed) that livery samples were produced but it was considered too expensive to produce it fully lined out, not sure if that is true.

Made by Rivarossi in Italy for Peco, in terms on numbers, as I understand it there were four batches, all with the product reference NL21  the original LMS ones (5713 "Renown") with gear coupled loco driving wheels made around 1969, the "Mark 3" produced 1977/8 without gear coupled drivers (relying on rods) which had an optional double chimney, unnumbered with six choices of name plus "Silver Jubilee" transfers (not sure where the Mark 2 went  ). A further batch LMS black Mk3s in cardboard box (earlier ones had a plastic jewel case) in the early 80s alongside the LMS maroon NL22.

So, many thousands made over the years but none for over 40. In my opinion it remained the best RTR British outline steam loco right up until the early "noughties" and the introduction of the Farish V2 but held it's own even against that. It wasn't until the first of the new tender driven DCC ready Bachmann Farish locos, ironically also a Jubilee, that in my opinion it was finally surpassed.

I am sure there remain thousands still in use and enjoyed on many layouts. I admit to having a stash of new spares of all the vulnerable bits (except the unobtainable motor) which I acquired some years ago to keep mine running, but in truth I rarely do and have kept them more for nostalgic/sentimental reason.

Roy

Loads I'm sure. They're pretty unbreakable.

I remember visiting Pecorama after they'd stopped selling the 2251's and was surprised to see a Jubilee still running around. I asked the guy who was servicing locos about it and he admitted it was a bit like Triggers broom.

He think it had probably done something like half a million miles over the years and had to change a wheelset once because it had cut one of the wheels in half!

I asked if the 2251's would last as long. He quietly shook his head 

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I have several Black ones an original Maroon and a repainted Maroon I also have what some  people think is an original Green one it has been examined by some very well know N Gauge experts and they cant be 100% sure BUT  they have all said it does look genuine ,its not lined out fully but looks good ,I will try and see if all of them still run ,they are at the back of a cupboard in my bedroom and there's a ton of stuff to move to get to them .
Like someone on here has said Its believed that Peco did a test run of six but then dropped the idea ,I found this one years ago at a Show at The Maltings in Farnham on a Charity trade stand .
If I remember I paid £30 for it ,it was make an offer price and it was for `Charity .
Bob

Quote from: Bob Tidbury on Today at 08:25:49 AMI have several Black ones an original Maroon and a repainted Maroon I also have what some  people think is an original Green one it has been examined by some very well know N Gauge experts and they cant be 100% sure BUT  they have all said it does look genuine ,its not lined out fully but looks good ,I will try and see if all of them still run ,they are at the back of a cupboard in my bedroom and there's a ton of stuff to move to get to them .
Like someone on here has said Its believed that Peco did a test run of six but then dropped the idea ,I found this one years ago at a Show at The Maltings in Farnham on a Charity trade stand .
If I remember I paid £30 for it ,it was make an offer price and it was for `Charity .
Bob

Hi Bob

It is an absolute 100% fact that the loco was never produced or released in BR green and no product reference exists for one. If you have a green one it is either (and most likely) a professional repaint of which there are many to different standards, and indeed my own Jubilees repainted by Fred have as good if not better than factory quality finish.

Or (and far less likely but admittedly still possible) is that it one of the rumoured green livery samples prepared for the never to be made green livery, and that the lining is simplified certainly adds some credence to that. It would be really interesting (if you get a chance to dig it out) to see a picture of it.

Roy