Quote from: Chris Morris on August 12, 2025, 04:01:54 PMI would expect volumes for all items from all manufacturers are commercially confidential.

confidential - everyone knows
secret - everyone who cares to know, knows
top secret - everyone in the industry knows
need to know basis - all the competitors know

It's pretty much impossible to keep those kind of things secret over years.

Quote from: Bob G on August 12, 2025, 04:07:08 PM

Quote from: Chris Morris on August 12, 2025, 04:01:54 PMI would expect volumes for all items from all manufacturers are commercially confidential.

Me too, but behind all of this "front" we are actually trying to persuade @Bigmac that pre-ordering helps keep the industry going. Well that's my back story.

another thought ive had about the apparent reluctance by some potential customers to pre order any Dapol product--was the often expressed comments about poor running, noisy motors, and sometimes flimsy build quality of earlier offerings. I think Dapol must know a lot depends on getting their next steam model right.
I really hope they do.

I don't pre-order anything (Revolution products aside), for no real reason. Just don't. I buy stuff when it comes out. Not missed out yet.