N gauge starts at 4.00 in

The class 87s look really good!
Cheers Colin

Nothing of interest for me there.

GE

Danm... I had #3 in the sweepstake...
 

The 87s do look good. I seem to be steadily replicating LSLs full roster,  so a Swallow one seems essential!

Didn't watch the whole thing, but the (n gauge) 66s remain conspicuous by their absence?

So the BoBs are finally going to happen?!  Might just have to place an order...

Thanks for sharing 

No sign of the new tooling 56 as yet?

I'm just glad the BoB is seeing the light of day after soooooo long! Definitely need one at least for BL.

Dave

Quote from: Bingley Hall on August 09, 2025, 11:03:53 AMNo sign of the new tooling 56 as yet?

I learnt long ago to take any proffered availability date with a gritter lorry full of salt

Lovely that he called the Class 87 electric the 87xx 

Nice to see livery samples on the Ivatts, but other than that, the Manor, Mogul, BB/WC and Ivatts don't seem any further on from last TINGS. That's a shame.

Pocket money and pension saved for OO sound fitted stuff... from the other firm!

Bob

It does seem that getting made in China is increasingly difficult. Bachmann/Farish are probably better off than the others because they are part of Kadar and Kadar are the manufacturers. Revolution Trains seem to be struggling to get things made just as much as Dapol, likewise Sonic. I don't blame Dapol for things taking a long time; it's the way things are in China. The BoB is a bit different pre orders were low after it was announced so the project was given a lower priority than other projects which looked more likely to provide a better return on investment. They are after all a business. As they are a business you can be sure Dapol are keener than us to get new models over here and on sale. Getting as far as samples costs Dapol hard earned cash but they don't get any cash back until it is on sale in the UK. In any business getting cash in from sales is  key to the business keeping its head above water.

Quote from: Chris Morris on August 09, 2025, 01:16:04 PMIt does seem that getting made in China is increasingly difficult. Bachmann/Farish are probably better off than the others because they are part of Kadar and Kadar are the manufacturers. Revolution Trains seem to be struggling to get things made just as much as Dapol, likewise Sonic. I don't blame Dapol for things taking a long time; it's the way things are in China. The BoB is a bit different pre orders were low after it was announced so the project was given a lower priority than other projects which looked more likely to provide a better return on investment. They are after all a business. As they are a business you can be sure Dapol are keener than us to get new models over here and on sale. Getting as far as samples costs Dapol hard earned cash but they don't get any cash back until it is on sale in the UK. In any business getting cash in from sales is  key to the business keeping its head above water.

Hi Chris

Bachmann are part of Kader (with an "e") Industries, not Kadar (with an a).

Out of curiosity where did you get the information that pre-orders of the BoB were low? I would have though that commercially sensitive so would be very surprised if it came directly from Dapol. As far as I am aware the BoB/WC of which running EPs were seen at TINGS last year is a brand new (from wheels up) model with absolutely nothing in common with the one that was announced ten or so years ago. As the model has been newly tooled and a huge chunk of money invested with as yet no return, I  would think Dapol will be as keen to launch the models as we will be to receive them.

Regards

Roy

Quote from: Chris Morris on August 09, 2025, 01:16:04 PM... The BoB is a bit different pre orders were low after it was announced so the project was given a lower priority than other projects which looked more likely to provide a better return on investment. ...

If this is accurate, it is surely a self-defeating downward spiral since received wisdom would have it that orders were low because of a lack of faith among potential buyers that Dapol would deliver in a sensible timeframe... 

I didn't order for just that reason - social meeja are rife with "...we've been waiting 10 years for this..."-ish anecdotes, which put me off, even though these are locos I would like to own.

Quote from: Chris Morris on August 09, 2025, 01:16:04 PMIt does seem that getting made in China is increasingly difficult.

What do you base that on?

The Revolution WIAs are on a boat 15 months after the announcement and 6 months after the order book opened, that seems pretty quick to me.

Regards,

John P

as regards the dapol spam can--were Dapol worried because the farish version didnt do too well ?