now am having trouble getting my head round which are the MOST appropriate for Eastern region early 50's...

Quote from: class8mikado on February 13, 2025, 11:10:09 AM
 now am having trouble getting my head round which are the most appropriate for Eastern region early 50's...

How about the set titled "BR (E) ECML 1950s" for starters...
The Queen of Scots sets fit as well, and also the Pair of Brakes if you want to run with other Pullman types.

QoS set A also works for the formation of the Hull portion of the Yorkshire Pullman in the mid-late 50s, so that's a probable for me, often with a Full brake (MK1 or Thompson) added Doncaster -Hull giving a nice prototypical short rake.

The prices look very reasonable when compared to coaches from other manufacturers, I had personally expected higher.

Roy

Quote from: Ben A on February 13, 2025, 10:36:15 AMHi all,

For those interested the K-type Pullmans can be pre-ordered at a discounted price now:

https://revolutiontrains.com/product-category/pre-order/ngauge/all-steel-k-type-pullmans/

We are offering a variety of sets for different regions and eras.

cheers

Ben A.

Ben,

Thanks for the heads-up on these.  An embarrassment of options for modellers, I hope these do well for RevolutioN.

I'm only in for the Brake twin pack to go with the Mk1 Pullmans, but some lovely packs for others to choose from.

Best

Scott

An interesting little teaser comment here:
https://revolutiontrains.com/product/all-steel-k-type-pullmans-vsoe-triple-pack/

QuoteThe VSOE is made up of a several different types of Pullman – we hope to be able to offer more varieties of Pullman in future!

Neil

Quote from: PLD on February 13, 2025, 11:35:38 AM

Quote from: class8mikado on February 13, 2025, 11:10:09 AM
 now am having trouble getting my head round which are the most appropriate for Eastern region early 50's...

How about the set titled "BR (E) ECML 1950s" for starters...
The Queen of Scots sets fit as well, and also the Pair of Brakes if you want to run with other Pullman types.

Not quite as simple as that, plus the pair of brakes running with met camms is not an early 50's thing.

Congratulations to Revolution! From my perspective, an excellent range of options at a very reasonable price. So for me it's a pair of brakes to top and tail 4 Mk1s, to make a perfect replica of the 1960 Master Cutler formation, plus two more brakes and a Bournemouth Belle rake. So happy, but the waiting continues, now with light at the end of the tunnel.
 

See page three of this thread for some 1950s ECML formations.

Hello all ,
I am keen to order a pack of these but undecided on the most appropriate.
My layout is no particular region but tend to run BR steam (1960s).
I already own quantities of Farish Pullman's , both types!!
The later MK1s are the Umber variants with white roofs ( personal preference: I prefer white roofs!!!)

Obviously I tend to run trains as per my rules but do try to be realistic!
Can these K style pullmans be mixed and matched with the Farish Pullman's (either type) , and if so which pack would be best recommended?
Thanks in anticipation!

As I've just commented in "the other place" very pleased to see these moving closer to reality. A full "Queen of Scots" rake has been ordered: my wallet is so glad I decided to cancel my Rule 1 preorder for the Sonic car carriers in anticipation. Mind you, my Pullmans will have to be running through Alne on a rule 1 engineering works diversion from the Leeds Northern...

White/grey roofs: all the same. The railways used white lead paint that weathered grey. So you should have a mixture.

Richard

for those wishing to recreate the south wales pullman see this RMweb thead

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/94954-7016-chester-castle-south-wales-pullman-1958/page/2/

it doesn't seem to includ ay of those shown as WR/SR

Regards,

Alex

I am deliberating. I don't really "need" the Metro Cammell Mk1 Pullmans I already have for the Great Central layout I am now building and persuaded myself that going forward I would only buy locos and stock that fitted in suitably. The named expresses "Master Cutler" and "South Yorkshireman" never used Pullman stock while running via the GC as far as I have been able to research, but I am tempted to order the set containing a couple of brakes to top and tail my existing Pullman set as a "Rule 1". The Early bird discount is generous, but I may wait to see EPs before deciding, the spec certainly looks impressive on paper.

Roy

Well well

Congratulations Mike on your pet project.

Totally blown away by these. Working lighting too! Wow! Great value as said before.

Going to have to get Ross @RBTKraisee to design the six wheeled bogies for the Poole Brake Ends that used to run with these before the BGs were in use. Although running them together will most likely show up the age difference in the designs!

Ben @Ben A and Mike (or anyone else)- you don't happen to have a drawing of said bogie for the wooden six wheel B/ends?

Bob

Sorry I've not had chance to be on here much recently but in a few answers to queries:

- S Wales Pullman: the only all-steel K-type I found that was allocated to that service was Zena.
- Master Cutler (I don't know the route just that it ran to Sheffield): the first service definitely had a couple of all-steel K-types 68 and 70 (pre conversion to brakes ie when still Kitchen Thirds)
- I haven't noticed a drawing of a 6-wheel bogie but not something I've been particularly looking out for in this model but I'll have a look
- as noted we would definitely like to do some earlier Pullmans (12-wheelers and/or earlier K-types are probably the most logical starting points but we'd need to check that).
- the Mk1 Pullmans came in during 1961 IIRC
- white vs grey roofs: I'm inclined to agree with Richard that what people largely refer to as grey roofs was mostly aged/dirty/weathered. The exception to that seems to be the 1960s where it seems pretty convincing that repaints did have a grey roof (as well as the newer Pullman coat of arms and "simplified" lining (that all seems clear in Ford's excellent Pullman Profile book).

Cheers Mike