Quote from: Portpatrick on February 06, 2025, 03:29:07 PMNothing for me in this release.  Not that I "need" much.  I may be tempted by the revamped V2 (BR Black) when it arrives.  And sell my original release.  At a pinch a new Compound would not be unwelcome, along with common Scottish goodies like the J36 and Glen (D34).  But what would excite me for my multi era Scottish interests would be a Craven DMU in green. I suggested it to REvolution, given these units were quite widespread.  But they politely declined.  They are reasonably not (yet?) interested in developing a 57ft underframe, and felt it would be easier for Farish given they have made a 101 and 108.  And don't start me on the Sad Eyes, ie Class 21 and 29.  I would have those in green and blue!

You are not alone in hoping Revolution return to the 21/29 at some point.

Isn't it Model Rail Scotland in few weeks? What a great place to announce but don't let me deflect the farish thread.

Much as I would love a 21/29, I think Revolution Trains probably have enough on their plate with the delivery of existing projects.

Quote from: PennineWagons on February 06, 2025, 01:56:50 PMPlenty to be going on with there. Can anybody think of any others?
PW

LNER
A1
A2
B1

BR Standard
4MT 2-6-4T (especially adding preserved 80135 in this run, possibly a club special)
4MT 2-6-0 (but would love a 4-6-0 75XXX version)

Diesels
25
37 (original Blue & Green)
55 Production Deltic

I don't have a wish list, but Farish still have the Crab (and LMS 4-4-0 in various guises) to update from the Poole era, which I think they said would happen with all the former Poole range.

The Crab would be useful to many, I suspect.

Martyn

Quote from: Roy L S on February 06, 2025, 04:51:50 PMMuch as I would love a 21/29, I think Revolution Trains probably have enough on their plate with the delivery of existing projects.

Yeah it's a fair point but, bar one or two models such as the 120, the pulmans and the iron ore hoppers, where they've been open about the research challenges much of the n gauge stuff is at livery sample or beyond per their project overview and Revolution aren't just Ben and Mike anymore.

Anyway, I digress from Farish again but that pop into Revolution's site made me think. How good would class 37 or 47 bespoke be? I know, an academic thought, never going to fit the Bachmann operating model.

The sheer number of permutations on either class is enough to give you a stroke!

I think any manufacturer offering such a thing would have to just be a free-for-all, rather than only allowing (and therefore cataloguing) all permissible permutations. A life's work if ever there were one...

So glad to see the 47/8s, those will go nicely with the mk2f and mk3 drags.

Would liked to have seen an intercity class 37 to go with the charter mk1s, plus a charter FK (for now a roof respray) and an RBR to complete the rake.

The one I thought we would have seen is the missing Mk2f RFB in Virgin Trains.

IC

Hi all,

I think 47555 in RfD Euro livery is a great choice.

As others have said, 47s in that livery certainly worked a variety of car trains:

With Cartic-4s in MAT blue and STVA grey, 1999: https://flic.kr/p/D9q3XN

With IPA twin car flats (front four sets) in STVA grey, 1998: https://flic.kr/p/2o6LXjR

With IZA twin vans and (near the back) JSA telescopic hood steel carrier, 1998: https://flic.kr/p/2mjXYLz

With Silcock Express Cartic-4s, with and without roofs: https://flic.kr/p/ea8L3W

Double heading on Rover Cubes: https://flic.kr/p/29AUEW5

cheers

Ben A.

when are the new class 47s due to arrive?

i think i will buy the swallow 47/8 and get it renumbered and weathered.

the rfd loco is tempting but i think i will have to show restraint or wait for a sale!

there are many other liveries i would like as well so looking forward to more announcements.


tim

Everything announced this week should be in the shops within the next three months.

Wow, we are finally getting an IC Swallow new tool 47/8 Thank you very much Farish. This will certainly save me a job converting / respraying a couple of my models that I've had planned for years! Happy to put a 849 model straight onto my XC rake and run, but of course, a little weathering will added at some point, but what about a second or maybe a 3rd 47/8 added to my fleet?   

47s are a minefield when it comes to detail differences and I'm sure Farish know this hence why we don't have a massive amount of livery's available. Be careful if you think 849 is going to offer a large scope for renumbering. If, like me you like to study the porotype and detail differences before taking on a renumbering / respray project, from a quick flick through my notes, in theory 849 cannot be renumbered, unless you want to get the carving knife and filler out...

Detail notes 47849;

Square boiler port
Cab mounted EHT stowage sockets
Opaque marker lights No.1 end, glass lens No.2 end
Cut away cabs

There are no other 47/8s with this exact detail arrangement, however if you wanted to model another cab mounted ETH 47/8 you do have 822, 832, 844 & 847, but these had a round boiler port, so the square boiler port plate would have to be removed from the 849 shell and the roof resprayed. They do however have the same marker light arrangement, cut away cabs & long range fuel tanks. Of course, if you want to model say 47840, then the holes for the ETH socket would need to be filled and repainted and that's it, as 840 had a square boiler port. Same goes for quite a few others, except for the ones with flush fronts at one end or in 853s case, both ends.

RFD Euro 47555. The upper 'Slate Grey' is to light, just like Dapol's 86622, however it has been mentioned by Mr Proudman that this will be rectified prior to release. I really hope so, as they have their 4mm model spot on. I do have a Dapol 86622 in RFD Euro, and as lovely as it is, the upper grey will be resprayed to the correct darker shade when time allows. My early RFD 86s will get the same treatment on the lower rail grey too...

As for 555, yes, it nice to finally have an RFD Euro 47 back in the catalogue, but I wish they would have offered the more common 47/0 or 47/3 in RFD Euro rather than just being lazy in my opinion and offering 555. No scope for renumbering what so ever on this model, unless you want to change the battery boxes for original full tanks (available as spares) and renumber it to 525 (RFD's only other 47/4 in RFD Euro)

A blue roof 47/0 or 47/3 would have gone down a storm, but hey ho, just my thoughts.

Cheers
Anthony   

Quote from: Roy L S on February 06, 2025, 04:51:50 PMMuch as I would love a 21/29, I think Revolution Trains probably have enough on their plate with the delivery of existing projects.

I am sure you are right Roy.  I hope I am able to be active in the hobby long enough to be able to buy and make good use of a green and a blue Swindon 120

Quote from: bluedepot on February 07, 2025, 09:46:10 AMwhen are the new class 47s due to arrive?

July/August according to Bachmann's website

https://www.bachmann.co.uk/category/model-railway/graham-farish/diesel-locomotives?page=2

Retooled Crab and 94xx pannier
Another run of the C class in SECR livery
Std 4MT 4-6-0
Any of the diseasels prototypes maybe ex EFE, preferably Kestrel or Falcon but a Lion would be very striking

Quote from: Newportnobby on February 07, 2025, 01:40:03 PMRetooled Crab and 94xx pannier
Another run of the C class in SECR livery
Std 4MT 4-6-0
Any of the diseasels prototypes maybe ex EFE, preferably Kestrel or Falcon but a Lion would be very striking

But Mick @Newportnobby, you and I already have a Falcon in WR guise (in fact I have both the green one and the blue one, but you could have already guessed that).

Kestrel is hideous, and like DP2 I don't need one. Lion ran on the Western for a bit through Oxford, so I can understand you wanting one.... But that one doesn't even have alternative liveries. At least with the Warships and Twins, we get lots of liveries.

I think they were all made by Heljan in OO, so little chance of shared CAD development costs either.

More likely a class 15 (which did get to the southern on London trip workings) before the Baby Deltic gets done.

I saw the OO fraternity saying they have got all the diesel classes apart from the 01 shunter and some of the 25kV electric locos. Well they are missing an 04 at the moment, and lots of the earlier small number shunters as well, so we are doing almost as well (LOL). I mean, we only need 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 21/29, 23, 25/3, 43, Kestrel, Falcon, Lion, 70 (original), 71, 74, 76, 77, 81-85..... need I go on?

Bob