Quote from: ntpntpntp on June 17, 2024, 07:18:38 PMDundas already have 6.2mm wheelsets on offer from Greenwich and Mosskito, solid, 3-hole and spoked.

I've used some of those in the past.

https://dundasmodels.co.uk/webstore/index.php/store-categories/category/511-dundas-models-009-wheels-bearing

If I decide to produce wheelsets, which at the moment is looking that I most probably will. 6.2m wheelsets are ones I will make, even though they are already avaliable. The reason for this is down to quality as the wheels I intend to make will have brass tyres.

As soon as my wheel press is finished I'll post some images of them, to see if people like them.

Dave

I think price is relevant too (certainly is for me). I find the Farish wheel sets fine, but they're fairly expensive. I suspect yours will be 'gold standard' which is great, but I'm too tight!

Quote from: njee20 on June 18, 2024, 11:58:44 AMI think price is relevant too (certainly is for me). I find the Farish wheel sets fine, but they're fairly expensive. I suspect yours will be 'gold standard' which is great, but I'm too tight!

Price is something I'm wrestling with at present, so far the cost of the brass tyres has been guestimated @ 30p each!

Quote from: crewearpley40 on June 17, 2024, 08:10:36 PM

Quote from: KevTheBusDriver on June 17, 2024, 07:56:42 PM

Quote from: Mr Sprue on June 17, 2024, 08:11:56 AM

Quote from: KevTheBusDriver on June 16, 2024, 09:54:35 PMI was looking for some 5.5mm diam wheels with small flanges on an axle long enough to fit in GRAFAR 100T oil tank bogies. I gave up looking, changed the plans so I don't need  them now!
There might be a requirement for an axle to replace the GRAFAR 100T oil tanker wheels with something with smaller flanges, but maybe these are already out there???
Kev E.

Hi Kev

Do these wheels have 3 hole discs?

Dave

Hi Dave - no, the 5.5 diam wheels I got are these:
(from eBay)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314820954029
These fit in a Lima freightliner flat bogie - they run very nicely and have smaller flanges than Lima, so the wagon floor can be lowered. I was hoping to get the same wheels with longer axles to fit the similar Farish bogie, but I gave up looking.
cheers
Kev E.

Kevin. Hi would those fit the grafar 100 T tankers ?
Under 11 pounds for a dozen is a bargain and I purchased some for my lima freightliner stock as you say smooth running now. Anything on Peters Spares or farish n spares  did you find ?

@KevTheBusDriver
Chris

Hi Chris, no, these axles are much too short to fit the Grafar 100T tank bogie. I did faff around trying to fit a pair of 'spacers' in - I tried 2 thicknesses of plastikard and even brass strip, but I gave up and resigned to hacking my Lima bogies for the job. However, all is not lost 'cos I'm now fitting the Farish bogies (the ones I'd got for the job) (with over-size wheels) onto the Lima flats... (just don't ask!).
Kev E.

Sounds like a plan. Bit of a faff but a tweak they should fit Kev.

Quote from: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2024, 08:41:51 PMSounds like a plan. Bit of a faff but a tweak they should fit Kev.

Here's a pic of Lima flr flats, one with the Lima bogie and one with a GraFar bogie - the 1mm spacer could be made smaller of the GF wheels were a) smaller diam and b) smaller flanges.
The next one I did (today) has no spacer at all - I just didn't file away as much of the cast stretcher...

Quote from: KevTheBusDriver on June 18, 2024, 09:22:24 PM

Quote from: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2024, 08:41:51 PMSounds like a plan. Bit of a faff but a tweak they should fit Kev.

Here's a pic of Lima flr flats, one with the Lima bogie and one with a GraFar bogie - the 1mm spacer could be made smaller of the GF wheels were a) smaller diam and b) smaller flanges.
The next one I did (today) has no spacer at all - I just didn't file away as much of the cast stretcher...

Thanks Kev. Really helpful
Much appreciated

Quote from: Mr Sprue on June 18, 2024, 08:11:03 PM

Quote from: njee20 on June 18, 2024, 11:58:44 AMI think price is relevant too (certainly is for me). I find the Farish wheel sets fine, but they're fairly expensive. I suspect yours will be 'gold standard' which is great, but I'm too tight!

Price is something I'm wrestling with at present, so far the cost of the brass tyres has been guestimated @ 30p each!

I would expect double that

What's the advantage of brass tyres?

Quote from: nick_bastable on June 18, 2024, 10:40:32 PM

Quote from: Mr Sprue on June 18, 2024, 08:11:03 PM

Quote from: njee20 on June 18, 2024, 11:58:44 AMI think price is relevant too (certainly is for me). I find the Farish wheel sets fine, but they're fairly expensive. I suspect yours will be 'gold standard' which is great, but I'm too tight!

Price is something I'm wrestling with at present, so far the cost of the brass tyres has been guestimated @ 30p each!

I would expect double that

It's not a bad price when you consider the waste involved from the machining process, but they are machined on a Swiss Auto Lathe, so labour cost is quite low.

Quote from: njee20 on June 18, 2024, 11:18:40 PMWhat's the advantage of brass tyres?

Much easier to machine than steel, more conductive (not that it matters for rolling stock) less corrosive, and easier to blacken.

Quote from: Mr Sprue on June 19, 2024, 09:25:01 AM

Quote from: njee20 on June 18, 2024, 11:18:40 PMWhat's the advantage of brass tyres?

Much easier to machine than steel, more conductive (not that it matters for rolling stock) less corrosive, and easier to blacken.

And would slide easier on the rail if the axle locks up 

Quote from: chrism on June 19, 2024, 10:15:22 AM

Quote from: Mr Sprue on June 19, 2024, 09:25:01 AM

Quote from: njee20 on June 18, 2024, 11:18:40 PMWhat's the advantage of brass tyres?

Much easier to machine than steel, more conductive (not that it matters for rolling stock) less corrosive, and easier to blacken.

And would slide easier on the rail if the axle locks up 

Why would the axle lock up? 

Quote from: Mr Sprue on June 18, 2024, 07:57:31 AMIf I decide to produce wheelsets, which at the moment is looking that I most probably will. 6.2m wheelsets are ones I will make, even though they are already avaliable. The reason for this is down to quality as the wheels I intend to make will have brass tyres.

As soon as my wheel press is finished I'll post some images of them, to see if people like them.

Dave

What tire width do you have in mind?
Most wheels are very wide and it would be nice to see 2mm wide wheels, or even better 1.8mm
You could fill a gap there because Mathieson models (who have very nice wheels on offer) don't make 6.2mm disc wheels.
I would always buy them from you then if I needed disc wheels.

Jan
(who would not make your business prosper with his small branch line terminus layout    )

Quote from: JanW on June 20, 2024, 07:44:40 PMWhat tire width do you have in mind?
Most wheels are very wide and it would be nice to see 2mm wide wheels, or even better 1.8mm
You could fill a gap there because Mathieson models (who have very nice wheels on offer) don't make 6.2mm disc wheels.
I would always buy them from you then if I needed disc wheels.
Jan

The ones I am working with are 2mm. Will post some images on here soon, thanks for your positive comment.