Since Grafar made class 91 in 90s, there's no production of this model.
In ebay, it is hard to find selling product.
Is there possibility to produce new n gauge class 91?

And class 91 has many special liveries, so we could expect them.

Cavalex models planned to make one to follow their planned OO gauge version, the OO version was dropped as Hornby beat them too it. Since then its all gone quiet as obviously shared research costs make the N gauge more viable.

Maybe one day they will turn back to it

Quote from: eddief83 on June 07, 2024, 02:06:42 PMCavalex models planned to make one to follow their planned OO gauge version, the OO version was dropped as Hornby beat them too it. Since then its all gone quiet as obviously shared research costs make the N gauge more viable.

Maybe one day they will turn back to it

Read about that on old post
Always thinkig that what if hornby make its oo products to N gauge.
N gauge Thompson pacifics, class 91, etc...
Well, do you have any specific livery hope to see?
Maybe 91111 For the fallen for me.

I was only commenting with @njee20 last week that the 91 is the last gap in the N gauge market that Farish used to have and have yet to re-tool.

Used to also apply to the 90, which was then suddenly announced by Bachmann. I would not be surprised if they did the same again.

Skyline2uk

Quote from: Skyline2uk on June 07, 2024, 02:35:27 PMI was only commenting with @njee20 last week that the 91 is the last gap in the N gauge market that Farish used to have and have yet to re-tool.

Used to also apply to the 90, which was then suddenly announced by Bachmann. I would not be surprised if they did the same again.

Skyline2uk

Hope to they revise class 91 and rebuilt Merchant Navy.

Quote from: Skyline2uk on June 07, 2024, 02:35:27 PMI was only commenting with @njee20 last week that the 91 is the last gap in the N gauge market that Farish used to have and have yet to re-tool.

Diesel and electric loco maybe, but we've yet to see new versions of:
LMS 2P
LMS Crab
SR Rebuilt Merchant Navy
LNER V2

The old Farish class 87 is about to be superseded by the new Dapol version. Likewise the early Bach-Far class 44 coming from Rapido.

Still a few Poole era wagons to go at too.


Steven B

Yes the discussion was specifically on modern locos. Not least as I wouldn't recognise a Crab if one ran me over, let alone whether it was Poole-era or modern, or indeed 1:1 scale! 

The 91 is a funny one. ECML layouts don't seem all that common (waiting for the cries of "what about Drem/Northallerton etc etc"), and I wonder if that does quash the perceived demand a bit. That said, with the 91/mk4s you've got a lot of liveries to go at without too much in the way of retooling. Sure we'll see it. The way Cavalex handled the N gauge one was disappointing. They stated that the N gauge one would continue despite the OO gauge one being cancelled, but they never even started a thread on RMWeb about it, and any content was limited to a handful of posts on the OO gauge thread. I never saw anything else on it after that!

Quote from: Steven B on June 07, 2024, 03:50:35 PM

Quote from: Skyline2uk on June 07, 2024, 02:35:27 PMI was only commenting with @njee20 last week that the 91 is the last gap in the N gauge market that Farish used to have and have yet to re-tool.

Diesel and electric loco maybe, but we've yet to see new versions of:
LMS 2P
LMS Crab
SR Rebuilt Merchant Navy
LNER V2

The old Farish class 87 is about to be superseded by the new Dapol version. Likewise the early Bach-Far class 44 coming from Rapido.

Still a few Poole era wagons to go at too.


Steven B

Heard that new tooling unrebuilt MN was not so successful
Possibility for rebuilt MN?
V2 is quite funny locomotive-it lies between poole era model and new tooled model.
And also, GWR King class.

Quote from: njee20 on June 07, 2024, 05:10:01 PMYes the discussion was specifically on modern locos. Not least as I wouldn't recognise a Crab if one ran me over, let alone whether it was Poole-era or modern, or indeed 1:1 scale! 

The 91 is a funny one. ECML layouts don't seem all that common (waiting for the cries of "what about Drem/Northallerton etc etc"), and I wonder if that does quash the perceived demand a bit. That said, with the 91/mk4s you've got a lot of liveries to go at without too much in the way of retooling. Sure we'll see it. The way Cavalex handled the N gauge one was disappointing. They stated that the N gauge one would continue despite the OO gauge one being cancelled, but they never even started a thread on RMWeb about it, and any content was limited to a handful of posts on the OO gauge thread. I never saw anything else on it after that!

If they launched n gauge one, it could be great success!
Wonder why cavalex models dropped out n gauge class 91.

It would be wholly understandable for them to say the N gauge one wasn't viable in the wake of not continuing with the OO gauge one, but they didn't. They expressly doubled down on the N gauge one going ahead, and then never mentioned it again.

Quote from: njee20 on June 07, 2024, 05:10:01 PMYes the discussion was specifically on modern locos. Not least as I wouldn't recognise a Crab if one ran me over]

Shame on you!

Hope you never get crabs. 

Chris

I have done considerable work on an N Gauge Class 91 and Mk4 spec but the combination of tooling costs and the cost-of-living crisis mean it is unlikely to happen at the moment.

Yes, I do have selfish seasons for wanting a 91 or three...

Quote from: Adam1701D on June 07, 2024, 10:58:29 PMI have done considerable work on an N Gauge Class 91 and Mk4 spec but the combination of tooling costs and the cost-of-living crisis mean it is unlikely to happen at the moment.

Yes, I do have selfish seasons for wanting a 91 or three...

Oh go on, just do the Loco to start with....you know you want to....

(I jest, I know that isn't viable in relation to the prototype).

Skyline2uk

Quote from: Adam1701D on June 07, 2024, 10:58:29 PMI have done considerable work on an N Gauge Class 91 and Mk4 spec but the combination of tooling costs and the cost-of-living crisis mean it is unlikely to happen at the moment.

Yes, I do have selfish seasons for wanting a 91 or three...

Lighting, modifying front, Electra's decals, and lots of works...

Without the Class 91 there is little justification for Mk4 coaches. Their reuse in Wales hauled by Class 67s makes them more relevant to Dapol. Maybe this is another case where Farish dusts off the old clear-bodied Mk4 tooling as they have with the Mk3s, but that will not happen without a new Class 91.

@Adam1701D did produce a number of Class 91 schemes in his Electra Rail Graphics range before his move to Dapol. So I would accept his summary of the Dapol position. But the Farish Class 91 was in my view even worse looking than their Class 90. I really cannot see them relaunching an upgraded Class 91 for a few ECML liveries, albeit some of them were eye-catching and attractive in 1:1.