My area is South London, theoretically leaning more towards the Eastern and Central divisions, but with a few Western division interlopers.  Era is an equally flexible notion - whilst predominantly mid 60s through to mid 70s, there has recently been a little stretching of time (and credibility) into the 80s and beyond. 

I'd like to see more 1st and 2 gen EMUs - 2/4EPBs, 4COR, 4VEP, 2HAL/HAP/BIL, MLV, 4TC, 6S/L, to name but a few.  Plus a 71 and 74.   

Lack of availability of this kind of stock has been a key influence in me exploring a wider time frame - I have 3 4CEPs and a Brighton Belle but don't (yet?) have the skills to build kits to a level that I'd be happy with.  I'm very happy running a Farish 319 and even have my eye on a Revolution Electrostar and the Farish 450, either of which would herald the final nail in the coffin of any pretence of fidelity and credibility ... but hey, it's my railway ....

Mark



   

Mike

I'm well aware of all the old whitemetal kits, which I've made many of in the past. To me they are difficult to make into something that matches today's RTR stock, particularly with old chassis too, hence my desire to use 3D prints. The Farish 4P too is so old, and the Dapol Schools is a much better fit for axle spacing and wheel size. The W just needs the steps cutting off and new ones made that sit on the outside of the footplate and it'll run on the N chassis. I thought H16's ended up on Fawley tank trains, or was that the W?

Dave

Have to shout up for the 4TC and a Thumper of some kind. Even a dummy 4TC to go with Dapol's 33/1 would make me happy.

Quote from: Foxhound on December 06, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
Have to shout up for the 4TC and a Thumper of some kind. Even a dummy 4TC to go with Dapol's 33/1 would make me happy.

All 4-TCs are unpowered. It's in the name. Trailer Control Unit.

Bob

Quote from: Bob G on December 06, 2022, 01:44:01 PM

Quote from: Foxhound on December 06, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
Have to shout up for the 4TC and a Thumper of some kind. Even a dummy 4TC to go with Dapol's 33/1 would make me happy.

All 4-TCs are unpowered. It's in the name. Trailer Control Unit.

Bob

*facepalm* sorry Bob, you are, of course, correct. 

Quote from: Foxhound on December 06, 2022, 01:50:14 PM

Quote from: Bob G on December 06, 2022, 01:44:01 PM

Quote from: Foxhound on December 06, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
Have to shout up for the 4TC and a Thumper of some kind. Even a dummy 4TC to go with Dapol's 33/1 would make me happy.

All 4-TCs are unpowered. It's in the name. Trailer Control Unit.

Bob

*facepalm* sorry Bob, you are, of course, correct. 

And I will have some too. My BHE sides on coaches without any interiors are looking very long in the tooth.
Bob

I'm with you Mike: ex-LSWR territory. My period is nostalgia-based: fifties and sixties to the end of steam (b. 1952).

Quote from: Steven B on December 06, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
I have to agree with the lack of a SR 4-6-0. It's a big missing link - how many were there?

Only including one of Drummonds 4-6-0s (since the rest were quite bad), we've got the following:

LSWR T14
LSWR H15
LSWR N15
LSWR S15
SR Lord Nelson

(hopefully not missed any other than the other Drummonds)

As for the thread's topic, I model roughly the Southern Hampshire area (a fictional version of Portsmouth & Southsea for my current main layout) for 30s SR, 60s BR(S) and also 90s NSE, and not sure how many know of my 3d modelling thread, but I'm slowly making more Southern items myself than what is available in RTR, what I would love is something like the EPB units as they lasted a long time and would work well with my 4CEP/4BEP units.

Would also love all the above 4-6-0s (in BR and some in SR liveries) and more 4-4-0s as well, even if it was just a chassis (ideally, a new Farish 4P since that allows more options), would give me something to make more bodies for heh

Quote from: JimSan on December 06, 2022, 04:16:24 PM
Only including one of Drummonds 4-6-0s (since the rest were quite bad), we've got the following:

LSWR T14
LSWR H15
LSWR N15
LSWR S15
SR Lord Nelson

So, using Wikipedia:
T14 = 10 built
H15 = 26 built
N15 = 74 built
S15 = 45 built
Lord Nelson = 16 built

None built in numbers matching the 840+ LMS Standard Five, but certainly similar to the LNER B17 (73 built), and more than the 40 SR V (schools) class (both of which have been done).

Steven B.

Quote from: Foxhound on December 06, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
Even a dummy 4TC to go with Dapol's 33/1 would make me happy.

Me too. Does the Dapol 33 come with optional push/pull brake pipes & jumper cables for 4TC operation?

Quote from: LASteve on December 06, 2022, 05:09:07 PM

Quote from: Foxhound on December 06, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
Even a dummy 4TC to go with Dapol's 33/1 would make me happy.

Me too. Does the Dapol 33 come with optional push/pull brake pipes & jumper cables for 4TC operation?

No, but happily they've modelled both the 33/0 (without high level pipes) and the 33/1, with the high level pipes and control gear.

Just to whet your Southern whistles... this is very much a work in progress, and these pictures are of the quiet side of the layout
This is the small station, Lower Upham, which has a steam shed. The coaling stage is based on Fratton, which actually had two, one for the LSWR and one for the LBSCR.
The loco shed is Heljan, similar to Dorchester shed.
Beyond the turntable is a newly built diesel shed (Nether Green), based on a Kato model, and beyond that the main town station of Bishopstoke, which you will have to imagine for now. That station has the EMU sheds, which are four Greenmax carriage sheds, again based on Fratton.

If you look closely, you will see an M7, terrier, 3MT, 5MT, MN rebuilt, Leader in BR black (yet to be lined!), and at the diesel end, an 07, 08, 73/1 in electric blue, 73/0 in green, and 33/0 in green. The EMUs are standard Farish and a 3D print by AyJay of a Tin Hal, awaiting numbering and completion.

I know I moan about lack of SR 4-6-0s but I actually have 14 in varying states of repair or under construction, about half even run

With my layout being based loosely on Oxford much of what Bob shows is in my roster as I've seen many SR workings at Oxford. Obviously no EMUs or pure electrics but I have:-

3 x MN (2 x rebuilt + 1 air smoothed)
1 x BoB Spam can (on pre order)
2 x Q1s
2 x 4MT 2-6-0s
3 x 5MT 4-6-0s
2 x 3MT tanks
1 x 4MT tank
1 x N class
1 x C class
1 x Schools
1 x Terrier
1 x M7 (on pre order)
2 x class 33s
1 x class 73

Scraping the barrel/Footie Specials are my main excuse for these appearing

How do you think I feel with all these GWR interlopers which come down from Bristol or Reading or via the Newbury Didcot and Southampton line.
94xx, 57xx, 64xx, 5101, Collett goods, City, Manor, Grange, Hall, Castle, 2884.

That's a better mix than are available to BR southern modellers.

Bob