my BAAs have arrived, and very nice they are with the choice of fitting cradles for the three rolls of steel, or fitting stakes along the sides.

I was hoping to model mine as loaded eye to sky as despatched from Ft William, but in spite of checking loads of photos and watching and rewatching videos, I still don't know how they were secured.

I was hoping to have the loads removeable, but it looks as though the only way to do that would be to put a single stake in the centre of the roll.

so can anyone tell me how they are actually secured, please ?

The decking, which is a combination of inverted U sections and mesh so hot loads can cool, have a series of holes in the inverted U sections to take vertical steel stakes. When coil was loaded eye to sky these were stuck in around the coil to stop it moving.

many thanks for that, Bernard.

we really need pictures to help you decide! 

have you tried a tiny blob of Blu-tac under the load to secure it??

Cheers

Mark

Other detail to watch - until the mid 1990s at least the stakes tended to be long even if the load was low. After an unfortunate incident where one failed and bent out 90° then proceeded to take out the side of a passing DMU the rules changed and they are now supposed to be sized according to the load, and also in rather better condition.

Some of the BAA/BBA loads through Newport also have runner wagons between each BAA. The load doesn't overhang them so I assume it's some kind of weight limit issue on one of the routes ?

Alan

Quote from: scruff on July 19, 2012, 09:26:19 PM

have you tried a tiny blob of Blu-tac under the load to secure it??

Cheers

Mark

that may well be the way to go, with stakes glued to the roll as if installed into the decking as per Bernard's answer.

Like you, I want my BAAs to carry the coils "top hat" rather than "on the roll".  The coils supplied are of too wide a strip to portray the type carried "top hat" though so for now I am using the cradles until I make some alternatives...or some enterprising experienced 3D printing expert (*cough*) spots a niche. 

I buy about 2000Te a week from Tata so I've left our Tata account manager one of the strangest enquiries she's had from me.  I've sent her a couple of pictures of BAAs with the coils carried in both postions and asked what size ranges would be carried each way.

I don't think I've come across rtr wagons that have taken so long to get out of the box, set up and pop on the rails before with all the loose bits and even with the cradles on they need sticking down as they wiggle about while the train is on the move.  They do look rather nice though:


Farish BAAs

You're right - they do look good

Well given dimensions they should be pretty trivial to 3D print, and right now the ones on my kit built BAAs are white metal and too heavy so you never know

Quote from: SD35 on July 21, 2012, 10:05:51 AM
Like you, I want my BAAs to carry the coils "top hat" rather than "on the roll".  The coils supplied are of too wide a strip to portray the type carried "top hat" though so for now I am using the cradles until I make some alternatives...or some enterprising experienced 3D printing expert (*cough*) spots a niche. 



Farish BAAs

more info, cheers.

I have got somewhere a couple of Athearn sets of steel loads, basically a frame with two rolls. as they are presumably 1:160, they might be a better bet.

will sort them out and compare them.

IIRC I got them from Osbornes.

Hi all

BAA's were not used from Fort William as its an aluminium plant not steel and Aluminium ingots would be loaded on BDA wagons however Ravenscraig did despatch steel coils eye to sky think it depended on the unloading facilities at the receiving terminal

Regards

dave

Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 19, 2012, 10:19:26 PM


Some of the BAA/BBA loads through Newport also have runner wagons between each BAA. The load doesn't overhang them so I assume it's some kind of weight limit issue on one of the routes ?

Alan

Quite correct Alan. Whilst steel wagons loaded with coils are within the axle load for the route the weight distribution when two wagons are coupled together can too severe for some bridges. The runner wagon will spread the train weight more evenly.

Roger