Quote from: PLD on March 25, 2022, 02:05:10 PM

Quote from: Dalek on March 25, 2022, 01:29:30 PM
I am surprised that there isn't any diesel electric/hydraulic cars yet though, well none i am aware of.

Every hybrid when running in mixed mode, is effectively operating as a Diesel/Petrol-Electric, though admittedly most are (over) complicated by a parallel mechanical drive.
True D-E with only electric final drive, and the ICE driving only a generator/alternator is a more popular opinion for buses.

I, can't see what D-H would offer for a private car, it's relatively inefficient on fuel consumption, bulky and needs careful regular maintenance. The big advantage in railway use is the high starting torque, which simply isn't needed in the average family hatchback...

Mght be usefull in an HGV though...

Quote from: Dalek on March 25, 2022, 03:09:08 PMMght be usefull in an HGV though...

Diesel-Hydraulic??

It hasn't been developed to a commercially viable product so far; so I can't see why anyone would wish to invest in it now, when it will be banned from sale in less than 8 years time will all other Petrol/diesel technologies... 

off topic, but in view of the comments made re Scotland, I decided I'd add an anecdote [you can't be charged for that, honest]

when, many years ago, we bought a house up in Scotland, with the intention of moving up there [scuppered by SWMBO changing her 'mind'  ] we chose the new carpets, and arranged to have the company measure and fit when we went up there after completion on the house.

'you need to remove the existing carpets, our fitters will fit the new ones'

with experience of the local council down here, I was ready [ ] for the call to the local council up there to arrange the [expensive] removal of the old carpets when I had lifted them.

'are you the home owner ?'
'yes'
'can you have them outside your property on xx/xx/xx for the crew to collect them ?'
'yes'
'that will be fine'

'err, how much will it cost me [at that time down here it cost £10 per 5 minutes] ?'

'you say you own the property ?'
'yes  '

'it's free'

not only that, but when they collected the old carpets they even swept up where I had stacked them to remove all the old underlay pieces !

and yes, I DID GO OUT AND GIVE THEM A TIP !

down here you don't get service from the council like that.

and, unless senility has overtaken me, IIRC you paid council tax and water rates as one, and a  lot less than the council tax + water rate ['clean water in'] and sewage [dirty water out] that we were paying down here.

English councils could learn a lot from the Scottish system, and there were loads of distilleries nearby as well 

IF ONLY I'D TOLD SWMBO that we were moving, whether she had changed her mind or not 

yes, like I would have survived a comment like that 

It's easy to do such things when the Barnett formula gives Scotland approximately 20% more per person to spend,
So in 2028-19
England was allocated £9,296 per person,
Scotland was allocated   £11,242  per person,
Wales was allocated £10,656 per person,
Northern Ireland was allocated  £11,590  per person.

Joel Barnett himself admits the formula was incorrect, it wasn't supposed to last this long nor give Scotland the advantage it does.

As for diesel electrics, my motor boat is D-E  it's an indirect system, so it has a generator not a drive diesel.
It saves a lot of fuel, mostly because on short journeys I don't need to run the generator, the solar panels topping up the battery pack.

Quote from: The Q on March 26, 2022, 06:30:35 AM
It's easy to do such things when the Barnett formula gives Scotland approximately 20% more per person to spend,
So in 2028-19
England was allocated £9,296 per person,
Scotland was allocated   £11,242  per person,
Wales was allocated £10,656 per person,
Northern Ireland was allocated  £11,590  per person.

Joel Barnett himself admits the formula was incorrect, it wasn't supposed to last this long nor give Scotland the advantage it does.

Read this...

https://www.businessforscotland.com/the-barnett-formula-myth-destroyed-it-does-not-subsidise-scotland/

local Tesco today, Petrol £1.62.9p per litre, diesel £1.67.9p.

comoing down, slowly 

Barnett or not, those living in Scotland, N. Ireland, Wales and London get the most spent on them:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/country-and-regional-analysis-2020/country-and-regional-analysis-november-2020



Steven B.

Quote from: Steven B on March 28, 2022, 03:50:40 PM
Barnett or not, those living in Scotland, N. Ireland, Wales and London get the most spent on them:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/country-and-regional-analysis-2020/country-and-regional-analysis-november-2020



Steven B.

Like to see the same "info" per land mass

What's land mass got to do with it?

let's you fudge the numbers 

Quote from: class37025 on March 28, 2022, 04:49:11 PM
let's you fudge the numbers 

Lets you do it properly more like

Quote from: chrism on March 28, 2022, 04:47:34 PM
What's land mass got to do with it?

Didn't Tina Turner sing that?

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 29, 2022, 03:18:38 PM

Quote from: chrism on March 28, 2022, 04:47:34 PM
What's land mass got to do with it?

Didn't Tina Turner sing that?

Naw she sang whats stealing all your natural resources got to do with it  

If it wasn't for the continuing fluctuating fuel prices I'd say this thread has rather run its course.

Or perhaps that should be "run off course".

back on course I'd say, obviously referring to 'Scottish Oil', or has that all run out now ?

remember the discussion on Porridge ?