I look forward to seeing what will happen to us old farts and our winter fuel allowance next December...................................................................or do I?

Quote from: class37025 on March 24, 2022, 12:33:37 PM
or is it that it is only on fuel that the duty is talked about, is there a flour duty on my bread, or a hops duty on my beer ?

Don't know about flour, but there is certainly an alcohol duty charged on beer - 8.42p per litre per ABV %age for 1.2% to 2.8% beers, 19.08p for 2.8% to 7.5% beers and 24.77p for beers stronger than 7.5% ABV. Then VAT on top of that.

wonder if my diesel Volvo would run on beer 

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 24, 2022, 03:34:12 PM
I look forward to seeing what will happen to us old farts and our winter fuel allowance next December...................................................................or do I?

probably, like the free TV licences for over 75s, be discontinued.

can I claim that as I paid my licence last year, and 99% of the programs are repeats, I can 'repeat' my licence fee 

I can guess the reply to that one.

pay the BBC to watch, occasionally, ITV.

seems fair, like paying BP to fill your car with Shell diesel.

Quote from: chrism on March 24, 2022, 03:50:03 PM

Quote from: class37025 on March 24, 2022, 12:33:37 PM
or is it that it is only on fuel that the duty is talked about, is there a flour duty on my bread, or a hops duty on my beer ?

Don't know about flour, but there is certainly an alcohol duty charged on beer - 8.42p per litre per ABV %age for 1.2% to 2.8% beers, 19.08p for 2.8% to 7.5% beers and 24.77p for beers stronger than 7.5% ABV. Then VAT on top of that.

so yet again, a tax on a tax.

Just be grateful you don't live in Wales (and Scotland I think),  they add another £4 to the price of a bottle of spirits in hope that it limits the amount some people drink.  As usual, punish everyone because of the minority.

Quote from: dannyboy on March 23, 2022, 01:56:29 PM

Quote from: chrism on March 23, 2022, 01:32:49 PM

Weren't the wholesale fuel prices still going up at the same time, thus reducing the reduction?

That may have been the case, but I do not think they went up by 14/15c per litre in a matter of hours. And if your local garage reduces the pump prices by 6p per litre at 6pm, I will buy you a pint. 

I happened to pass my local filling station this morning and the diesel price displayed was 6p down on what it was a fortnight ago - whether that's due solely to the duty cut, however, I know not.

Quote from: class37025 on March 24, 2022, 04:10:00 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 24, 2022, 03:34:12 PM
I look forward to seeing what will happen to us old farts and our winter fuel allowance next December...................................................................or do I?

probably, like the free TV licences for over 75s, be discontinued.

can I claim that as I paid my licence last year, and 99% of the programs are repeats, I can 'repeat' my licence fee 

I can guess the reply to that one.

pay the BBC to watch, occasionally, ITV.

seems fair, like paying BP to fill your car with Shell diesel.

i read somewhere the tv licence is to be scrapped.  if not--it will be the next direct debit i will be cancelling. ( Bearing in mind it cost 18 months in the first year of DD payments, 25 years ago.  So i will still be overpaid.

Quote from: TrevL on March 25, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Just be grateful you don't live in Wales (and Scotland I think),  they add another £4 to the price of a bottle of spirits in hope that it limits the amount some people drink.  As usual, punish everyone because of the minority.

Well thats the case as drinking is a problem, first country to bring in a minimum unit price but there are other benifits here inc Free personal care, Free prescriptions, Scrapping of tuition fees, Banning fracking, Baby boxes, Council Tax bills are lower, pay rise for public servants, highest NHS pay rise in the UK, bus pass for everyone aged over 60 and eligible disabled people and 5-21 year olds, free sanitary products available in schools colleges and universities, free tuition, school meal for all children in primaries 1 to 3, Free, high quality childcare, no Bedroom Tax, no bridge tolls etc etc

Waits for all the lol , thumbs down emojis etc.

Really before you ask why we have those things here ask yourself why you don't have it there ?

Quote from: TrevL on March 25, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Just be grateful you don't live in Wales (and Scotland I think),  they add another £4 to the price of a bottle of spirits in hope that it limits the amount some people drink.  As usual, punish everyone because of the minority.

jump in the car and drive over the border and stock up every few weeks ?

Quote from: Bigmac on March 25, 2022, 11:49:03 AM

Quote from: TrevL on March 25, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Just be grateful you don't live in Wales (and Scotland I think),  they add another £4 to the price of a bottle of spirits in hope that it limits the amount some people drink.  As usual, punish everyone because of the minority.

jump in the car and drive over the border and stock up every few weeks ?

This thread is about the ridiculous cost of fuel.

Quote from: Dalek on March 25, 2022, 11:53:36 AM

Quote from: Bigmac on March 25, 2022, 11:49:03 AM

Quote from: TrevL on March 25, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Just be grateful you don't live in Wales (and Scotland I think),  they add another £4 to the price of a bottle of spirits in hope that it limits the amount some people drink.  As usual, punish everyone because of the minority.

jump in the car and drive over the border and stock up every few weeks ?

This thread is about the ridiculous cost of fuel.

Convert you car to run on Alcohol?? 

Quote from: PLD on March 25, 2022, 01:24:29 PM

Quote from: Dalek on March 25, 2022, 11:53:36 AM

Quote from: Bigmac on March 25, 2022, 11:49:03 AM

Quote from: TrevL on March 25, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Just be grateful you don't live in Wales (and Scotland I think),  they add another £4 to the price of a bottle of spirits in hope that it limits the amount some people drink.  As usual, punish everyone because of the minority.

jump in the car and drive over the border and stock up every few weeks ?

This thread is about the ridiculous cost of fuel.

Convert you car to run on Alcohol?? 

Not sure that would be legal, certainly have to pay duty and vat and tax and some other form of "legal" extortion on it as well i suppose.

I am surprised that there isn't any diesel electric/hydraulic cars yet though, well none i am aware of.

Quote from: PLD on March 25, 2022, 01:24:29 PM

Quote from: Dalek on March 25, 2022, 11:53:36 AM

Quote from: Bigmac on March 25, 2022, 11:49:03 AM

Quote from: TrevL on March 25, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Just be grateful you don't live in Wales (and Scotland I think),  they add another £4 to the price of a bottle of spirits in hope that it limits the amount some people drink.  As usual, punish everyone because of the minority.

jump in the car and drive over the border and stock up every few weeks ?

This thread is about the ridiculous cost of fuel.

Convert you car to run on Alcohol?? 

what, at £16.00 a litre for supermarket's own brand whisky ?

mind you, the way things are going, it might end up cheaper !

can a car be breathalyzed and charged with being drunk in charge of a driver 

Quote from: Dalek on March 25, 2022, 01:29:30 PM
I am surprised that there isn't any diesel electric/hydraulic cars yet though, well none i am aware of.

Every hybrid when running in mixed mode, is effectively operating as a Diesel/Petrol-Electric, though admittedly most are (over) complicated by a parallel mechanical drive.
True D-E with only electric final drive, and the ICE driving only a generator/alternator is a more popular opinion for buses.

I, can't see what D-H would offer for a private car, it's relatively inefficient on fuel consumption, bulky and needs careful regular maintenance. The big advantage in railway use is the high starting torque, which simply isn't needed in the average family hatchback...