The BBC morning news was suggesting that the crews might not have been wearing full survival kit. Don't know why that would be the case.

Really worrying.

Let's hope they guys are found and brought safely home.

Quote from: daveg on July 04, 2012, 08:03:24 AM
The BBC morning news was suggesting that the crews might not have been wearing full survival kit. Don't know why that would be the case.

Really worrying.

Let's hope they guys are found and brought safely home.

In the summer they don't wear the full length "bunny suits" under their flying suits (they are thick thermal full length suits for winter use) they will still be wearing full immersion suits though.

Quote from: class37025 on July 04, 2012, 08:00:52 AM
what did strike me, both last night when I checked, and this morning, is the total lack of commercial shipping in the area.
I may be getting old, but I remember when something like this would result in any ship in the area heading at full speed to assist.
I guess these days there is no profit in that, though no doubt when they are in trouble they will expect the RAF and Coastguard to risk their lives to go to their aid.

on a clear day from lossie you get a good veiw all the way across the moray firth and there's never that much shipping traffic out there, the odd bit headed down to inverness and sometimes taking shelter from storms out in the north sea, and for small scale commercial last time i was up in lossie there was only 3-4 boats left of any size and equipment to be of help,

sad thing is that the only thing keeping the helicopter rescue service there from the RAF is the need to recover their own pilots should the RAF pull out of the area then civilian cover will have to take over, this incident has shown just why they maintain their own SAR,,,,

it's saddening that i logged into bbc news not to find good news this morning,,,,,,, 

Very sad news confirmed now, 3 dead, 4th serious but stable in hospital.  Bloody sad day for the Royal Air Force and the families

Terrible news - my thoughts go out to all relatives and friends of the deceased

My sentiments exactly, very sad news. I haven't seen the TV, so does anyone know what happened?

Quote from: Malc on July 04, 2012, 02:41:27 PM
My sentiments exactly, very sad news. I haven't seen the TV, so does anyone know what happened?

A very sad outcome.

It's possible there may have been a collision during close combat practice. As mentioned earlier, when you're moving at such high speeds, things happen in fractions of a second.

Quote from: Malc on July 04, 2012, 02:41:27 PM
My sentiments exactly, very sad news. I haven't seen the TV, so does anyone know what happened?

A board of enquiry has been convened but it will be some months until we get any answers, the black boxes (which are actually orange) will provide some data as will the surviving member.  Don't know how deep it is 25 miles off Wick but it will be a real tough task recovering the aircraft.

Quote from: daveg on July 04, 2012, 02:48:19 PM

Quote from: Malc on July 04, 2012, 02:41:27 PM
My sentiments exactly, very sad news. I haven't seen the TV, so does anyone know what happened?

A very sad outcome.

It's possible there may have been a collision during close combat practice. As mentioned earlier, when you're moving at such high speeds, things happen in fractions of a second.

Speaking to some of the pilots here, there are dozens of reasons why this tragic accident might have occurred, we will have to await the findings

Ive said nothing in this thread so far but my thoughts and prayer go out now (and have been sinse it started) to the families, friends and those who have to take any active part in the actions still to be performed over this incedent.
To the dead crew members I hope they are at peace and didnt suffer to much

My  deepest condolencies go  out  the the crew  &  their families.

I still remember the shock and loss felt by all of us when we lost a Shack and it's crew from Ballykelly in the late 60s.

thoughts for all affected, family, friends and comrades.

at least they will receive plenty of support from their service family.

Quote from: class37025 on July 04, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
I still remember the shock and loss felt by all of us when we lost a Shack and it's crew from Ballykelly in the late 60s.

thoughts for all affected, family, friends and comrades.

at least they will receive plenty of support from their service family.

Now that is going back a bit 
Typical of the media though, now calling into question the airworthiness of the Tornado, muppets 

Names not published yet of the sad loss of the 3 Tonka guys.

Nevertheless, they will probably be familiar names and I will raise a glass to them tonight.

Per Ardua ad Astra, fellas!!!

STU from EGDL

Names now available on the BBC 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-18720128

Quote from: Lawrence on July 05, 2012, 01:12:39 PM
Names now available on the BBC 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-18720128

BBC state "the names of the three airmen who died after 2 Tornados crashed have been released"

Then they say one died in hospital and the other 2 are feared dead

This type of reporting is disgusting and the BBC should be heavily censured IMO