New run of Dapol Britannias anounced

Steven B · June 03, 2021, 01:54:48 PM

Dapol have a new batch of Britannias due Q4 2021/Q1 2022:

2S-017-006 Britannia 70000 BR unlined Black early crest
2S-017-007 Firth of Clyde 70050 BR Lines Green Early crest
2S-017-008 Firth of Forth 70051 BR Lined Green Late Crest
2S-017-009 Owen Glendower 70010 BR Unlined Green late crest
2S-017-010 East Anglian Set: Sir Christopher Wren 70039 BR Green early crest and 4 Gresley Crimson & Cream Coaches

RRP of the single models is £144.95 with the train pack having RRP of £260.
Discounts of 15% should be easy to find.

Steven B.

Newportnobby · June 03, 2021, 03:04:17 PM

I wonder what'll be pushed further back in the pecking order to make room

Will they still have grey wheels? Old pics on Rails website.
Do Dapol have a surfeit of Gresleys as this is the second announcement of a train pack (the other being the 'Pines Express' with 9F and 4 Gresleys)
Nearest for me would be either of the late crest ones which were based at Banbury in Oct '65 $:-\$
Loco price at Rails is £123.21 which isn't shocking

martyn · June 03, 2021, 03:15:57 PM

Interesting choice of names and numbers.

70000 was in unlined black during January 1951 only before being repainted into lined green.

70050/51 were BR1D high sided tenders-a version not modelled before? (All my Britannias are Stratford/Norwich engines so only had BR1s).

Martyn

Chris Morris · June 03, 2021, 03:23:07 PM

I like that Dapol keep doing runs of locos and do different numbers each time.

Dr Al · June 03, 2021, 03:32:33 PM

That's typical....just when I'd nearly finished a high sided BR1D tender conversion... lol.....

Cheers,
Alan

Richard Taylor · June 03, 2021, 07:57:51 PM

Quote from: martyn on June 03, 2021, 03:15:57 PM
Interesting choice of names and numbers.

70050/51 were BR1D high sided tenders-a version not modelled before? (All my Britannias are Stratford/Norwich engines so only had BR1s).

Martyn

I doubt very much whether Dapol will be re-tooling for a new tender: they will just slap the names and numbers on the existing model and you will have to live with it.

I base this (cynical) opinion on the fact that Dapol are also advertising an LNER A1 "Flying Scotsman" as a forthcoming model. Having got all excited by the prospect of an original condition A1 with GNR tender I discovered that what they mean by an "A1" is their existing A3 model in LNER livery named and numbered as "Flying Scotsman"!

Richard T

Dr Al · June 03, 2021, 08:10:18 PM

Quote from: Richard Taylor on June 03, 2021, 07:57:51 PM
I doubt very much whether Dapol will be re-tooling for a new tender: they will just slap the names and numbers on the existing model and you will have to live with it.

Maybe, but I wouldn't assume this.

Dapol did the CAD for all variations of the Britannia - it was displayed at the time, including high sided tenders. It was always a mystery to me why they never used it.

I also doubt they could get away with just changing name/number without a load of flak - this is too big a difference for folks to overlook.

Cheers,
Alan

NGS-PO · June 03, 2021, 08:16:00 PM

Quote from: Richard Taylor on June 03, 2021, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: martyn on June 03, 2021, 03:15:57 PM
Interesting choice of names and numbers.

70050/51 were BR1D high sided tenders-a version not modelled before? (All my Britannias are Stratford/Norwich engines so only had BR1s).

Martyn

I doubt very much whether Dapol will be re-tooling for a new tender: they will just slap the names and numbers on the existing model and you will have to live with it.

I base this (cynical) opinion on the fact that Dapol are also advertising an LNER A1 "Flying Scotsman" as a forthcoming model. Having got all excited by the prospect of an original condition A1 with GNR tender I discovered that what they mean by an "A1" is their existing A3 model in LNER livery named and numbered as "Flying Scotsman"!

Richard T

There is a comment from them on the Facebook page stating that the tender will be "...tooling has also been done to give an impression of a coal pusher to give the correct tender type to the relevant models."

Best

Scott.

Richard Taylor · June 03, 2021, 09:54:47 PM

Well, I very much hope I'm wrong then! So, why not do the A1 properly as well?

Richard

njee20 · June 03, 2021, 10:14:58 PM

Quote from: Dr Al on June 03, 2021, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: Richard Taylor on June 03, 2021, 07:57:51 PM
I doubt very much whether Dapol will be re-tooling for a new tender: they will just slap the names and numbers on the existing model and you will have to live with it.
I also doubt they could get away with just changing name/number without a load of flak - this is too big a difference for folks to overlook.

Cheers,
Alan

Of course they could. Only a small proportion of buyers will even know that x loco should have y tender, and Dapol (and Farish) have a history of releasing stock without accurate portrayal of all of the intricacies of intra-class variation.

Dr Al · June 03, 2021, 10:44:27 PM

Quote from: njee20 on June 03, 2021, 10:14:58 PM
Of course they could. Only a small proportion of buyers will even know that x loco should have y tender, and Dapol (and Farish) have a history of releasing stock without accurate portrayal of all of the intricacies of intra-class variation.

I disagree - the clear difference in these tender types was not subtle nor an 'intricacy' - it was very prominent.

as compared:

Sure, they 'could'.....but they would get a lot of criticism. They have got plenty for far far less - and given they did the CAD back in the day, it would be a no brainer. Does sounds like they are going to, so will be interesting to see how they look.

Gives me more kick to finish mine before they do.....Dapol have got into the habit in recent times - I've a Strathclyde liveried 156 nearly done too...

Cheers,
Alan

exmouthcraig · June 03, 2021, 10:48:49 PM

@Dr Al well do us all a BIG favour Alan and start a rebuilt Bullied Pacific

Dr Al · June 03, 2021, 10:51:33 PM

Quote from: exmouthcraig on June 03, 2021, 10:48:49 PM
@Dr Al well do us all a BIG favour Alan and start a rebuilt Bullied Pacific

I've dabbled there before....but southern region's your thing, Craig. Mind you, I fixed a Terrier tonight...

Cheers,
Alan

longbow · June 03, 2021, 11:27:53 PM

According to Hattons, "A new tooling variation will also cover the BR1D tender and impression of a coal pusher on relevant models".

njee20 · June 04, 2021, 12:00:51 AM

Quote from: Dr Al on June 03, 2021, 10:44:27 PM
I disagree - the clear difference in these tender types was not subtle nor an 'intricacy' - it was very prominent.

Sure, they 'could'.....but they would get a lot of criticism. They have got plenty for far far less - and given they did the CAD back in the day, it would be a no brainer. Does sounds like they are going to, so will be interesting to see how they look.

Yep, not denying it's very obvious, but you said you doubt they could get away without retooling the tender. I disagree, of course they could. Yes they'd get flak, like they do on every stupid 'male chicken' (changed by forum) up they make, and there are a lot, many of which are entirely unavoidable, but it'd still sell, and most would likely be none the wiser.