Quote from: jamespetts on May 05, 2021, 04:00:14 PM
I shall look forward to the autumn announcement, and in the meantime contemplate whether the lavatory block will be suitable for my layout.

I'm glad I have not had to wait until the Farish loo arrived on my layout. I cater for ladies and gentlemen of all ages on my layout, with my Piddle Liddle End loos.

Bob

I see I'm not alone in being completely underwhelmed by that announcement. I can't help feeling the Farish range is being sidelined. Bachmann have been able to continue producing and releasing new OO stuff under the 'difficult circumstances' but not N.

We don't get any interesting liveries - europhoenix 37? LU 20? Large logo 37 only ever available in an expensive set with some unnecessary plastic tat or in a DCC fitted set.

We don't get any of the (growing) range of Atlantic's available in OO. Ditto Derby Lightweights, 105s, L&Y 2-4-2 tanks, the J72 in N was canned, LNER D11s, GWR 45xx & 56xx, the list goes on and on. They've been done in OO. It can't be impossibly difficult to scale down.

US or Continental N scale is starting to look more attractive each day.

C.

What's the point of them announcing new stuff when it will be at least a year or two before it arrives.

My understanding is that with quarterly announcements we'll only get notified of new models that are well on their way to production.

In my case I still waiting for their reliveried CL66's & CL150. Plus the new tooling CL158, and the CL319. Not to mention various wagon re-runs.

Regards,

John P

my understanding of Quarterly announcements is for items that will actually be delivered to shops in the next 3 months.

yeh it was boring - but i expected it to be to be honest.

as discussed they have a lot of backlogged items to release so i understand why they don't announce new items. however they could have just thrown in a few n gauge reliveries or something though to keep us interested!!


tim

I wonder if part of the problem is that Bachmann have created the expectation (through quarterly announcements) that there will be new things appearing.  Unfortunately things don't always pan out like that despite best intentions and it highlights disparities between different ranges.

Ahhh... don't you just long for the good old days... when, if we were lucky there would be one newly tooled model from Poole every 3 or 4 years... when we didn't even get different numbers/liveries on existing tools... when the only thing about the Farish Catalogue that changed year-to-year was the price... when the first we knew of a new model was the review in Railway Modeller...


Reality; we were spoilt for 10-15 years with a lot of new models, as Bachmann updated the inherited range and fought off the emerging challenge from Dapol. That was never going to be sustainable in the long term. Those who expect 3 or 4 brand-new items in every quarterly announcement just aren't being realistic...

Quote from: ChrisWV10 on May 05, 2021, 04:39:45 PM
We don't get any of the (growing) range of Atlantic's available in OO. Ditto Derby Lightweights, 105s, L&Y 2-4-2 tanks, the J72 in N was canned, LNER D11s, GWR 45xx & 56xx, the list goes on and on. They've been done in OO. It can't be impossibly difficult to scale down.

Dapol have already done the 45xx and may uprate it I seem to recall reading somewhere.
Sonics 56xx are hopefully in transit.
So no one else will be doing those two

Quote from: PLD on May 05, 2021, 09:16:58 PM
Ahhh... don't you just long for the good old days... when, if we were lucky there would be one newly tooled model from Poole every 3 or 4 years... when we didn't even get different numbers/liveries on existing tools... when the only thing about the Farish Catalogue that changed year-to-year was the price... when the first we knew of a new model was the review in Railway Modeller...


Reality; we were spoilt for 10-15 years with a lot of new models, as Bachmann updated the inherited range and fought off the emerging challenge from Dapol. That was never going to be sustainable in the long term. Those who expect 3 or 4 brand-new items in every quarterly announcement just aren't being realistic...

I've said much the same on other threads.....

To give a slight balance, there are a lot of 'awaited' items on the Farish list on their website.

Like others, though, I do feel a little disappointed that there hasn't been at least some models in N which have appeared in OO. However, perhaps these models haven't been scaled to N as they are basing future sales on what was achieved in OO-or not?

Martyn

Quote from: red_death on May 05, 2021, 08:17:39 PM
I wonder if part of the problem is that Bachmann have created the expectation (through quarterly announcements) that there will be new things appearing.  Unfortunately things don't always pan out like that despite best intentions and it highlights disparities between different ranges.

I think that is a fair observation Mike. However I also think that to an extent the disillusioned comments are driven by the fact that in Q1 there was nothing new tool announced (the Parrot has been known about for quite a while) and ditto Q2 apart from four Scenecraft models. I think people are realistic enough not to expect multiple new models in six months but something would have been nice. I was pleased to see Maurice's quote from Bachmann, I just hope that the "exciting news" for Q3 lives up to that bold statement. I would love to see (but don't expect) a new tool V2 following on the heels of the OO one. Maybe TINGS will be the place we find out.

Roy

I quite like Bachmann's new quarterly announcements. It's good knowing what's actually going to arrive in the next 3 months so it can be budgeted for. Surprises like the EFE class 17 are also very welcome.

That said, it does show up the very slow progress on models that have already been announced - including simple re-runs of existing models. It'd be nice if they provided some updates on existing projects. The class 319 was first announced in 2016/17, the class 158 in 2018. There are dozens of re-liveries still waiting for production slots.

Steven B.

Hi all,

I must admit I was a little disappointed that the Farish announcement didn't have a single item of rolling stock to offer, and with that in mind I am surprised they started the video presentation by highlighting this being Farish's 50th anniversary year.

I feel this immediately created a level of expectation that was not going to be fulfilled.

In marketing terms, I also feel that Bachmann have painted themselves into a bit of a corner with the double-whammy of announcements every three months that can only mention items due in the next three months, and then sticking rigidly to this. 

If they do have a more impressive line up expected for the autumn announcement these could've been spaced out to maintain a feelgood feeling about Farish among their customers throughout the year if they were less proscriptive.

cheers

Ben A.

Quote from: ChrisWV10 on May 05, 2021, 04:39:45 PM
Large logo 37 only ever available in an expensive set with some unnecessary plastic tat or in a DCC fitted set.

Untrue. Bachmann have done 4 examples:

37558 (Vulcan set)
37418 (DCC set)
37407 (general release)
37027 (limited run for TMC)

So actually this is a very well catered for livery, through a range of releases. One has been easily able to source models split from sets also - I've bought one in the last month!

Cheers,
Alan

I am looking forward to 372-729,  I think
  The Standard 5 on weathered black
  Also the Hebredian TSO  and adapted 101 end car,   374-995.

Quote from: Portpatrick on May 06, 2021, 11:01:08 AM
I am looking forward to 372-729,  I think
  The Standard 5 on weathered black
  Also the Hebredian TSO  and adapted 101 end car,   374-995.

Except that the BR Black Standard 5 73050 will no longer be weathered - I have queried and Bachmann have confirmed.