A class 45 Peak was sold on eBay yesterday for £236.56 after 9 bids, it started of as 45114 but has had domino head code removed and renumbered 45133. This is a standard Farish Peak with DC control and no lights, so what is going on with Peak prices. You can buy a class 66 with DCC, lights and sound for £199.70 from Rails of Sheffield. I am a Peak fan and have 14 of them with eventual aim of having complete class of D1 to D10 in green.

I would say potentially you are sitting on a tidy sum of money 

Possibly supply and demand?

They haven't been made for some time, so if anyone wants one, they will pay what they think it's worth. And if two or more want the same one, its the bidding war.

Also, sometimes, if the basic loco has been upgraded or detailed a bit, it might make a difference in final selling price.

Martyn

Two people wanted it that much. Neither of them wanted a 66, so that's an irrelevant comparison. They could also have bought loads of bacon, but they probably didn't want that either.

Completely normal.

Peaks have gone up steadily in price simply because you've not been able to buy them new for something around 13 years, and only one run was done of the latest variant of the tooling in BR blue (the class 46 46053).

The same has happened in the past - by 2005-7 the cost of Farish 101 DMUs was rising rapidly in exactly the same way, after only being out of production for 5 or 6 years. Lack of recent production of the new tool version of the 101 and 108 is having the same influence on current prices. Is simply supply and demand. But as usual, the high prices get high volumes of comments, but the low ones don't - I've picked up peaks in the last year for £45-55 in several occasions. Occasional split gears are ideal ones to look for - easy (and cheap) to fix, and the resulting non/poor-running usually hits the price down a lot.

Add to the fact that that particular model in question here had been reworked to a high standard, and fully repainted, then the reason for the price is obvious.

Cheers,
Alan

Is that one from Leicester Modellers? If so with the work thats gone into it no real suprise?

Quote from: Dr Al on December 28, 2020, 06:38:22 PM
Completely normal.

Peaks have gone up steadily in price simply because you've not been able to buy them new for something around 13 years, and only one run was done of the latest variant of the tooling in BR blue (the class 46 46053).

The same has happened in the past - by 2005-7 the cost of Farish 101 DMUs was rising rapidly in exactly the same way, after only being out of production for 5 or 6 years. Lack of recent production of the new tool version of the 101 and 108 is having the same influence on current prices. Is simply supply and demand. But as usual, the high prices get high volumes of comments, but the low ones don't - I've picked up peaks in the last year for £45-55 in several occasions. Occasional split gears are ideal ones to look for - easy (and cheap) to fix, and the resulting non/poor-running usually hits the price down a lot.

Add to the fact that that particular model in question here had been reworked to a high standard, and fully repainted, then the reason for the price is obvious.

Cheers,
Alan

£45-£55 in the last year ?  yep--about what they are worth--in standard as made form. after all--get real folks--its just an old second hand used plastic moulding on a chassis.

Thanks for replies guys. Yes it was the one from Leicester Modellers and it was modelled to a high standard. There has been several other Peaks reworked to a high standard over the last week that have sold for around the £200 Mark. It is indeed a case of supply and demand driving the prices up. Maybe Farish should be thinking of producing a new Peak model to modern standards.

Quote from: Bigmac on December 28, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
£45-£55 in the last year ?  yep--about what they are worth--in standard as made form. after all--get real folks--its just an old second hand used plastic moulding on a chassis.

Get real, it's a toy train, it's worth £2, at most. We can all throw around baseless figures. It's worth what someone will pay. Some people baulk at paying £80 for a loco, others will spend well over £1000 sending their CJM loco to Mercig for a respray and then get it sound fitted. Neither has a bearing on the other. The number of people who consider "their" value of an item to be correct is tedious and irrelevant.

Its all about what its worth to the buyer at that point in time. Sometimes you just need that loco to finish off your fleet and so it becomes important. One thing for certain is you should buy things when they are released if they are important to you. Whilst no loco is ever essential in a real world way  it can be in important to our model world. In which case you will pay what you have to to get one. Nobody is forced to pay very high prices as there is always the choice to not buy. Some will feel it is worth the price to fulfil their needs/desires. I don't see anything wrong with that.

I wouldn't pay over the odds for a Peak but will certainly buy one when Farish get round to making another one. Luckily for me I don't regard the Peak (well 45 or 46 for me) as really important, just highly desired when available. If it doesn't come along in 2021 I can wait. Mind you we could do with the announcement of a new N gauge loco from Farish and if there is one my bet would be a 45/46.

For context, the last Peak run was 2011, according to this source:

https://www.ngauge.org/bac_dloco.php

THere was a re-tool slated a few years ago, but was subsequently cancelled.

Best

Scott.

I am presuming from the OP that the domino Peak was reworked into a sealed beam Peak.

In OO, sealed beam Bachmann Peaks did attract a very high premium as they had not been run for ages, in demand (for 1980s period modellers) and some of them had the missing nose seam line. The last was a deal breaker for many (I found them distinctive at the time even though I was in primary school when they were withdrawn).

When Heljan announced their new OO Peak including sealed beam variants, Bachmann did a new run.

So to buy that version is a bet that there will not be a new run.

sure I listed some cl 40/44/45/46 a while ago, perhaps you missed the listing.

I can't help feeling that the Peak in updated form is somewhere on Bachmann/Farish's radar, not least because there are fairly recent models in the OO range and new tool sealed-beam ones to come.

I have a green 44 and a 45 in my stash from way back when, I seem to recall I bought the 45 for a really cheap price from Hattons. I'll hang on to them!

Roy

Any thing, not just models are only worth what someone is willing to pay for it...

Value may be a different thing!

😁

Martyn