Quote from: emjaybee on December 09, 2020, 10:37:44 AM
I'm emigrating to Canada.

I've just read they've bought enough vaccine to inoculate the entire population five times over!

The UK has ordered enough to do the population several times over..

ordered from several companies in case some don't work.. If they all work then the UK will look good giving the rest away to 3rd world countries. Luckily the first is the expensive one £15 a shot. The Astra Zenica is supposed to be a couple of pounds a shot..

If my local surgeries history  with my flu jabs is anything to go by, I may get my vaccine about 2030, despite being at risk due to asthma and other breathing problems.

Managed to get a flu jab this year for the first time in several years. 

Normally, I get my letter, ring for an appointment, sorry, no appointments, ring in 6 weeks. Ring again, no appointments etc

I am full of confidence that they can cope...............

Quote from: The Q on December 09, 2020, 01:42:28 PM

Quote from: emjaybee on December 09, 2020, 10:37:44 AM
I'm emigrating to Canada.

I've just read they've bought enough vaccine to inoculate the entire population five times over!

The UK has ordered enough to do the population several times over..

ordered from several companies in case some don't work.. If they all work then the UK will look good giving the rest away to 3rd world countries. Luckily the first is the expensive one £15 a shot. The Astra Zenica is supposed to be a couple of pounds a shot..

I reckon by the time it gets to me it'll be "Good afternoon Sir, which vaccine would you like, the Astra Zenica one is quite popular today, although if you'd prefer a warm fuzzy feeling for 24hrs perhaps you'd prefer the BioNtech?"

Compare   it   with     your   car,   would   you   rush   out   and   buy   the   MK 1   version   or   wait   for   the   MK 3 

My 80-year-old mum is trying to get an appointment for a blood test at her GP - if she can get through to reception.
I won't be surprised that she'll be offered a jab whilst present at the surgery.
Having said that I hope medical staff will chase up patients so that they don't miss getting their second jabs two or three weeks later.

Quote from: Malc on December 09, 2020, 10:51:47 AM
Apparently a couple of NHS staff had an allergic reaction to the jab. They are OK but a warning was issued to people who have severe allergies.

Pfizer quote a rate of 6/1000 for reactions to the jab, and 5/1000 for the control ( water) jab!!

probably not a good idea if you have had a SERIOUS reaction to precious vacc ( redness, fever and malaise for 24hrs are normal with most)

Quote from: gc4946 on December 09, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
My 80-year-old mum is trying to get an appointment for a blood test at her GP - if she can get through to reception.
I won't be surprised that she'll be offered a jab whilst present at the surgery.
Having said that I hope medical staff will chase up patients so that they don't miss getting their second jabs  two or three weeks later.

GPs will probably have one centre per CCG to administer due to requirements of   Pfizer Vacc ( -80C storage etc). GP surgeries  will probably use the Oxford or Moderna vaccine when available as storage requirements easier.

GPS will be doing Care home vaccs.

surprisingly i wont be rushing out  for multiple reasons
how longs it last?  "we don't know"
will it stop me passing on the virus? " we don't know"
side effects?  "no,well actually erm yea maybe 1 or 2 "
do's it actually work? we dont know "
whats the procedure if i have a bad reaction  that affects me for life? "tough, were immune from any come backs"
All the above can be verified as  statements made by either  government ministers,the research team or the ceo of pfizer .To be honest id rather trust the drugs from dodgy bloke in the pub toilet to anything this government has to offer

Thus spake the president of the flat earth society.

Quote from: themadhippy on December 09, 2020, 03:49:49 PM
surprisingly i wont be rushing out  for multiple reasons
how longs it last?  "we don't know"
will it stop me passing on the virus? " we don't know"
side effects?  "no,well actually erm yea maybe 1 or 2 "
do's it actually work? we dont know "
whats the procedure if i have a bad reaction  that affects me for life? "tough, were immune from any come backs"
All the above can be verified as  statements made by either  government ministers,the research team or the ceo of pfizer .To be honest id rather trust the drugs from dodgy bloke in the pub toilet to anything this government has to offer

Hi

You are quick to rubbish anything that is being done so let's hear your solution to the virus complete with all eventualities covered.

Cheers

Paul

The initial idea ,herd immunity,not a  popular choice to some ,but the human body is designed to fight off virus's and develop its own immunity,unfortunately to many people live in a super sterile world cleaned to the nth degree and insist on antibiotics for the slightest sniffle so there body isn't used to fighting.Yes it would cost a lot of life's,but is that such a bad thing considering how overpopulated the world is and how stretched resources are? I see this as warning from nature,and nature tends to win in the end regardless of what you throw at it

Yep, just like polio, diphtheria and typhoid. It's way better to infect the whole population and let survival of the fittest prevail. Let the body naturally fight it. Vaccines don't work. Oh wait...

Quote from: themadhippy on December 09, 2020, 06:13:14 PM
The initial idea ,herd immunity,not a  popular choice to some ,but the human body is designed to fight off virus's and develop its own immunity,unfortunately to many people live in a super sterile world cleaned to the nth degree and insist on antibiotics for the slightest sniffle so there body isn't used to fighting.Yes it would cost a lot of life's,but is that such a bad thing considering how overpopulated the world is and how stretched resources are? I see this as warning from nature,and nature tends to win in the end regardless of what you throw at it

Still taking info from Viz and the idiot mags then?

Herd immunity is not possible with this virus. With this virus the body's immunity is only temporary and fades to nothing after 4-6 months. Hence, it will just keep rolling around reinfecting people, destroying families, leaving people with permanent liver, kidney, heart, lung issues which overload the NHS for decades to come.

Quotepolio diphtheria and typhoid

Aren't those  bacterial diseases,not viruses.last time i looked covid was a virus and the way they attack the body is different

QuoteWith this virus the body's immunity is only temporary and fades to nothing after 4-6 months

And how long is the vaccine effective?

Quote from: themadhippy on December 09, 2020, 06:13:14 PM
The initial idea ,herd immunity,not a  popular choice to some ,but the human body is designed to fight off virus's and develop its own immunity,unfortunately to many people live in a super sterile world cleaned to the nth degree and insist on antibiotics for the slightest sniffle so there body isn't used to fighting.Yes it would cost a lot of life's,but is that such a bad thing considering how overpopulated the world is and how stretched resources are? I see this as warning from nature,and nature tends to win in the end regardless of what you throw at it

Hi

Just as I suspected do nothing and let people die.

Having seen the effect of losing two parents in as many weeks to this virus (not me but someone I know) as far as I'm concerned that is not a viable option.

Cheers

Paul