Quote from: Intercity on April 16, 2019, 04:15:01 PM
With regard to the tooling for the SLE and SLEP, aren't the ends different with inbuilt lights (will they work?), and the pipes etc for the water tanks, with these subtle differences the underframes may also be slightly different, with that said the roof may be the only thing they can reuse (and I'm not totally sure of that).

Yes to all of that, but given their existing model is a hybrid mk3/3a, with CDL mouldings on all liveries and a generic buffet I really wouldn't hold out hope that the SLE/P will be anything more than new windows in the existing mk3.

To save everyone else looking all the Digest says is they're delayed by a month . Would be helpful to say that rather than just say that there's a post...

Quote from: njee20 on April 16, 2019, 10:19:59 PM
To save everyone else looking all the Digest says is they're delayed by a month . Would be helpful to say that rather than just say that there's a post...

That's not what it said in the post I read

Here's a link to it https://digest.dapol.co.uk/forum/n-gauge-models/rolling-stock/mk3-vehicles/2943-mk3-sleepers/page2

I would have put the link originally but Intercity was commenting that they wasn't holding out for a timely release without actually looking for any information. It was easy to find to on the Dapol Digest.

Well thanks for directly bashing me, but my posts refer to the fact I wouldn't hold my breath for a timely release was in response to the many other projects that have dragged on and on, and disputes all the replies my stance still hasn't changed in that I won't be holding my breath on these, much the same as the hope for a Farish 319 but that's a different thread.

Have any retailers got these on their website for pre-ordering yet? I haven't found any.

I don't think Dapol have released part numbers or anything have they? They're still a way off.

Not mentioned here, a couple days ago Rails of Sheffield and Hattons published Details of the forthcoming models including part numbers and liveries. They can be pre-ordered now.
- Blue/Grey Intercity
- Intercity Executive
- Current GWR Green
- Jarvis Departmental Red
- First Great Western Green "Fag Packet"
- First Great Western Blue "Dynamic Lines"
- ScotRail Caledonian Sleeper
- Serco/Fastline Departmental Red
https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/3434-mk3-sleepers
https://hattons.co.uk/newsdetail.aspx?id=715

As Exclusive Modells, KMS Railtech offers the following Variants as Twin-Pack:
- Current Teal Caledonian Sleeper Stack
- First Caledonian Sleeper with white band
- First Caledonian Sleeper debranded
https://www.kmsrailtech.co.uk/318-2mm-exclusives

Apparently the models will be delivered UNNUMBERED. Decals would be provided to number ones own rake. I have no other source, but a post on RMweb: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index....comment=3677145

Quote from: MacRat on June 06, 2020, 05:10:05 PM
Apparently the models will be delivered UNNUMBERED. Decals would be provided to number ones own rake. I have no other source, but a post on RMweb: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index....comment=3677145

Actually, the sleepers will be delivered with running numbers: https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/3434-mk3-sleepers. There's no mention of decals. Anyway, I can't wait to get my hands on a couple of these! It also seems as if Dapol is going to do some more loco-hauled Mk3s http://www.dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/44/index.html. It sure would be nice of them to provide the necessary rolling stock for a full Night Riviera rake, even if it means some compromises.

Regards
Christoph

Quote from: LowerQuadrant on June 07, 2020, 09:35:34 AM

Quote from: MacRat on June 06, 2020, 05:10:05 PM
Apparently the models will be delivered UNNUMBERED. Decals would be provided to number ones own rake. I have no other source, but a post on RMweb: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index....comment=3677145

Actually, the sleepers will be delivered with running numbers: https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/3434-mk3-sleepers. There's no mention of decals.

Thank you for the correction.

Only thing I have noticed is the art work for the "Intercity Executive" sleeper isn't Executive at all, it's swallow!

If it is fixed they will sell me a rake of them.
Going to need to lookout my digest logon to point this out.

Looks like KMS are in for another big order from me for the Caledonian sleeper coaches.

Re the new run of all loco hauled mk3: the prototype should be under development so hopefully we may see mk3a's with the correct roofs!

Quote from: CaleyDave on June 07, 2020, 01:01:29 PM
Re the new run of all loco hauled mk3: the prototype should be under development so hopefully we may see mk3a's with the correct roofs!

So, there's new tooling involved? Please share your knowledge!

Quote from: LowerQuadrant on June 07, 2020, 02:03:24 PM

Quote from: CaleyDave on June 07, 2020, 01:01:29 PM
Re the new run of all loco hauled mk3: the prototype should be under development so hopefully we may see mk3a's with the correct roofs!

So, there's new tooling involved? Please share your knowledge!

Hi

Dapol have tooled up for the prototype HST.
https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/preorder/N-Gauge-Preorder/HSTP_Preorder

Cheers

Paul

Quote from: PaulCheffus on June 07, 2020, 02:07:27 PM

Quote from: LowerQuadrant on June 07, 2020, 02:03:24 PM

Quote from: CaleyDave on June 07, 2020, 01:01:29 PM
Re the new run of all loco hauled mk3: the prototype should be under development so hopefully we may see mk3a's with the correct roofs!

So, there's new tooling involved? Please share your knowledge!

Hi

Dapol have tooled up for the prototype HST.
https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/preorder/N-Gauge-Preorder/HSTP_Preorder

Cheers

Paul

Have they though(!)? The resource you link to states "We will give updates along the way to indicate how close we are to starting the tooling". I don't recall reading anything further, so interpret that to mean they are nowhere near to starting tooling.

Quote from: RailGooner on June 07, 2020, 04:03:19 PM

Quote from: PaulCheffus on June 07, 2020, 02:07:27 PM

Quote from: LowerQuadrant on June 07, 2020, 02:03:24 PM

Quote from: CaleyDave on June 07, 2020, 01:01:29 PM
Re the new run of all loco hauled mk3: the prototype should be under development so hopefully we may see mk3a's with the correct roofs!

So, there's new tooling involved? Please share your knowledge!

Hi

Dapol have tooled up for the prototype HST.
https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/preorder/N-Gauge-Preorder/HSTP_Preorder

Cheers

Paul

Have they though(!)? The resource you link to states "We will give updates along the way to indicate how close we are to starting the tooling". I don't recall reading anything further, so interpret that to mean they are nowhere near to starting tooling.

They claim to be evaluating the first decorated samples.

http://www.dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/24/index.html#zoom=z

Whoops my fault for leading us off topic.

woodbury22uk beat me to posting a catalogue link.

Plenty going on with regards to mk3 tooling and artwork between the new HST's, sleeper's, prototype's and yet to be announced loco hauled.

Bringing it back to the sleepers they are awaiting the first Deco sample (assume Deco means decorated in this context).
I have asked on the Digest if 2P-006-002 is Executive or Swallow since the description doesn't match the artwork.

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Quote from: CaleyDave on June 07, 2020, 04:44:42 PM
I have asked on the Digest if 2P-006-002 is Executive or Swallow since the description doesn't match the artwork.

Got a reply on the digest stating 2P-006-002 will be as per the aren't work, so Swallow (INTERCITY)