LISTEN I HAVE NEVER SAID "WE HAVE TO" AND NO BODY HAS TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING I SAY.

YOU ARE JUST AN ARGUMENTATIVE PERSON.



END OF STORY FROM ME.

That's fine, we can continue a grown up discussion. I don't think there's need for personal comments.

I remain very genuinely interested if my views are unduly harsh on something people deem a "fledlging" effort, or if, in this capitalist day and age, they've had their chance and they're missing the mark a little.

I do wonder what their circulation is. Is it available through any retail channels? I've only bought online or through their website. With the number of print magazines declining That would be my focus. You can potentially tap into the sort of market where people won't have read articles on these layouts. Exactly those Steamie suggests it would be ideal for.

Sort the simple presentational efforts and you're away.

Nick

Blimey!
It's only a magazine. Please can you just agree to differ and leave it there. I can see things from both sides but they are irreconcilable so either buy it or don't and send comments to the editor of the mag please.

To echo NewportNobby, let's look at objective reviews of the publication. 

Isn't that exactly what I've given...?

Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
Isn't that exactly what I've given...?

Indeed it was. However, the thread is in danger of becoming a bit argumentative.

As it is a fairly old thread, it may have run it's course.

Quote from: Bealman on February 26, 2017, 10:20:46 AM

Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
Isn't that exactly what I've given...?

Indeed it was. However, the thread is in danger of becoming a bit argumentative.

As it is a fairly old thread, it may have run it's course.

I know you love a good thread-locking, but Please don't lock it!

Topics will meander a little, but come back, as this one is. It's unbelievably frustrating when topics get locked for no real reason in the midst of active discussion.

I agree with escafeld that some how-to articles and such would be great, but I wonder if they're lacking in someone with the skills to do it, how do you get someone involved. It's a bit chicken/egg

Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 10:42:09 AM

Quote from: Bealman on February 26, 2017, 10:20:46 AM

Quote from: njee20 on February 26, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
Isn't that exactly what I've given...?

Indeed it was. However, the thread is in danger of becoming a bit argumentative.

As it is a fairly old thread, it may have run it's course.

I know you love a good thread-locking, but Please don't lock it!

Topics will meander a little, but come back, as this one is. It's unbelievably frustrating when topics get locked for no real reason in the midst of active discussion.

I agree with escafeld that some how-to articles and such would be great, but I wonder if they're lacking in someone with the skills to do it, how do you get someone involved. It's a bit chicken/egg

I can assure you that neither myself or the rest of the team love (your words) thread locking.

When threads degenerate into personal arguments, then we look at the situation.

Quote from: Herzel on February 25, 2017, 02:23:32 PM

Quote from: RailGooner on February 25, 2017, 12:02:14 PM

Quote from: mr bachmann on February 25, 2017, 11:42:24 AM
its a shame WH Smiff's don't have it in their racks so's we could have a quick peep   

After queueing for an hour! 

LOL. As it seems to be these days! Sadly the days are over when they had staff at various counters and you could order magazines, CDs and things and get served promptly. Now I have to eye my watch in Smiths in case the parking ticket runs out.

Last time there I said to this brusque assistant that** wanted to charge me for a bag even though it was raining without, "I was young when I came here. Look at me now!"
** can't say "who" as I'm sure it was a robot.

My grand-daughter works in a WHS and I can attest that she is most assuredly NOT a robot. She is underpaid and overworked and often dealt with offhandedly and rudely by many customers who have yet to destroy her kind nature.

To be fair I think that goes for any customer facing role!

They'll be gone within 5 years I reckon, which is a shame, but their core products are dwindling, and evidently they're not differentiating enough or innovating.

Thanks Herzei. No worries, I get just as riled as you over staff who seem to have forgotten they are actually serving people. Doesn't help that so many companies are cutting costs just to stay buoyant and still maintain a High Street presence, with the highest cost being staff.
And sadly the onset of self-checkouts further reduces the need for customers to engage with staff, thus adding to the pressure on the few staff who are left to deal with the customer who hears the "unexpected item in bagging area" or "please call for assistance" disembodied voice.


But returning to the thread....
I saw an old copy of N Gauge Now at an event recently and, as a newcomer to N Gauge I thought it was a rather poor affair at first glimpses. If it's been going since 2014 it should be past the teething problems of poor printing and photographs that others here have mentioned. I won't be subscribing, but wish them well. They just need to look for a more professional finish and, as already mentioned, show some online copy to encourage sales that has real grit and originality.
Like NPN suggests, perhaps this comment would be better sent to the publishers website. I'll do just that later.

Having bought the premier edition do not buy his book  N GAUGE MODELLING: AN INTRODUCTORY GUIDE as most of it is in this magazine

Quote from: Herzel on February 27, 2017, 12:08:30 PM
The magazines arrived. I've just had a glance through the 2014 "premier issue" and it isn't at all bad. Even for the original fiver it isn't heavy with ads like my occasional "Model Rail".

And d'you know what? It's refreshing. It's all N gauge. I'm don't have to wade through masses of glorious O gauge stuff in the palaces of the very wealthy, layouts they probably pay Land Tax on, nor OO - just N.

Ok, just some of the photos could be a little sharper but they do catch the mood. There's a lot of inspiration there. Maybe because I'm a railway/railway modelling novice and I haven't read them in full, that I have yet to find things out.  First impression though is most favourable. As that novice it's the kind of thing I might be tempted to buy on a bookstall.

Good luck to the publisher(s).

...

Seems like someone else is prepared to give favourable reviews, we are not all experienced modellers and the knowledge from the members on our forum is the best, but sometimes it great to read of something us new to the hobby can read, yes some if not all the photos are not up to the industry standard but you are not buying it for the photos it is the content that new modellers haven't seen.

Enjoy the rest if the issues Herzel and have an open mind like most of us do.   Happy Modelling.   

Quoteyes some if not all the photos are not up to the industry standard but you are not buying it for the photos it is the content that new modellers haven't seen.

At risk of being called argumentative... that's a really interesting post. Actually photos are very definitely one of the (overwhelming) main reasons I buy a magazine, and perhaps why blurry, wrongly captioned and pixelated ones bother me so much. I'm not really inspired by words, the words set the scene which the photos tell. I think that's why they're so crucial.

Perhaps we consume things totally differently, I'll pore over photos in a layout thread more than the words. I think that's perhaps another reason it grates, in this day and age we have such unfettered access to so much high quality media FOC, that paying for substandard images really frustrates me.

Not liking something doesn't make people close-minded, despite the petty snipe.