I shall continue to live in hope of a rake of VEAs....

Quote from: Thorpe Parva on November 01, 2016, 09:46:35 AM
I recently purchased some of the ex-Parkwood Kits from the NGS including this one. The Open is to Diagram 1/019 which I think was a new design but similar-ish to ex-LMS Opens. 4,000 built from 1951-55 in Ashford, number series B457597-B461596. Hope this helps.

Thanks for that...so its a 'Medfit' a departmental open, that's a real bonus.

Quote from: red_death on November 01, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
Some of the ex-Parkwood kits are already available from the NGS shop: http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp

I think the Pallet Van (if the same thing!) is part of a twin pack.

Cheers, Mike

The Parkwood and Ex 2mm society kits are a bit 'hidden' in the shop being found under the title of 'Special Purchase kits' - maybe they should be listed directly on the society products page?

I'm quite happy on this occasion buying the Palvan and Medfit as a twin pack but I personally happen to think that long term 2 separate kits is the way to go?

Quote from: longbow on November 01, 2016, 12:25:30 PM
If that's a Palvan, shouldn't it look like this?

http://www.watercressline.co.uk/article.php/94/b776446-br-palvan

Looks very like that!

Thanks for the link, for a design that wasn't particularly successful in traffic there seems to be a lot preserved.

Quote from: Ben Line 457 on November 01, 2016, 09:00:59 PM
The Parkwood and Ex 2mm society kits are a bit 'hidden' in the shop being found under the title of 'Special Purchase kits' - maybe they should be listed directly on the society products page?

I'm quite happy on this occasion buying the Palvan and Medfit as a twin pack but I personally happen to think that long term 2 separate kits is the way to go?

I suspect that the masters or tooling was designed to produce both at once hence the twin pack.

Please bear in mind that these are the items the NGS did not design so there are limitations to what we can change without major cost implications.  We felt it was more important to make what we had available than to delay sales to allow us to upgrade/change kits to go into the main NGS range.

Cheers, Mike

(NGS Product Development Officer)

The OP showed a picture of what looks like a Vanwide (Diag 213) rather than a Palvan (diag 211)- so can somebody confirm please which one is modelled the Parkwood kit?

Mike - if it is possible to separate the Palvan/Medfit packs that would make a lot of sense - my impression is that the Palvans often ran together on eg Weymouth Quay traffic.

Quote from: longbow on November 01, 2016, 10:20:58 PM
The OP showed a picture of what looks like a Vanwide (Diag 213) rather than a Palvan (diag 211)- so can somebody confirm please which one is modelled the Parkwood kit?

Mike - if it is possible to separate the Palvan/Medfit packs that would make a lot of sense - my impression is that the Palvans often ran together on eg Weymouth Quay traffic.

Hi

Parkwood did both the VanWide and the Palvan as kits. The one in the twin pack with the open wagon is definitely a PalVan.

Cheers

Paul

Quote from: Cooper on November 01, 2016, 06:27:02 PM
I shall continue to live in hope of a rake of VEAs....

If you're into 3D printed wagons this company do 3 packs of VEA's both with 3D chassis & just bodies to use a Peco Chassis instead.
They also do Palvans amongst other stuff.

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/rail3d

They were put together to keep the costs down, take a look at the Standard Van kit moulding with all the extra parts for the other vans.
Steve.

Quote from: Ben Line 457 on November 01, 2016, 11:37:43 PM

Quote from: Cooper on November 01, 2016, 06:27:02 PM
I shall continue to live in hope of a rake of VEAs....

If you're into 3D printed wagons this company do 3 packs of VEA's both with 3D chassis & just bodies to use a Peco Chassis instead.
They also do Palvans amongst other stuff.

I've got three already. Stuck at getting the wheels to fit stage currently. Still hoping for a plastic kit too!

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/rail3d

Quote from: PaulCheffus on November 01, 2016, 10:24:02 PM

Quote from: longbow on November 01, 2016, 10:20:58 PM
The OP showed a picture of what looks like a Vanwide (Diag 213) rather than a Palvan (diag 211)- so can somebody confirm please which one is modelled the Parkwood kit?

Mike - if it is possible to separate the Palvan/Medfit packs that would make a lot of sense - my impression is that the Palvans often ran together on eg Weymouth Quay traffic.

Hi

Parkwood did both the VanWide and the Palvan as kits. The one in the twin pack with the open wagon is definitely a PalVan.

Cheers

Paul

I do have the twin kit, NGSP006, in front of me as I type & I can also confirm that it is a Diagram 211 Palvan.

The Palvan has an externally framed, hinged double door at one end of the van (as per the eBay link in the OP and the picture on the Mid Hants railway website.

The VEA/VEV (or VAN WIDE as it was known pre-TOPS) has a two part sliding door mounted centrally.

2388 PAL Vans were built by BR (c.f. 1894 Van Wide) but they didn't ride very well. Due to only having doors at one end, when partly loaded they were often loaded at one end only, rather than the load being in the middle or more evenly distributed as you'd find on a centre door van. This lead to lots of derailments and other accidents. Most had been scrapped by the mid 1960s.

Happy modelling.

Steven B.