Feasible conversion? LMS Royal Scot

Started by Zaonite, January 13, 2012, 09:12:55 PM

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Zaonite

Hello  :NGaugeForum:

I am considering buying one of the new BachFar LMS Royal Scot locos. However, off the shelf, it represents the rebuilt version with smoke deflectors, which is way past my modelling period by about 10 years.

What I want to do is get an unbuilt version of the body kit and mount this on the chassis instead of the rebuilt one.

Has anyone done this before? If, not, do you think it will work without too much difficulty?

Ta,

Zaonite
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Dr Al

A kit is probably less detailed than the Farish shell.

I would personally replace simply the boiler on the Farish shell - this would cover it - and given that they originally had parallel boilers this could be done easily with the correct diameter brass or plastic tube. You may even be able to reuse the handrails and detail bits off the original boiler with careful removal.

Cheers,
Alan
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BernardTPM

As well as the boiler you would need to change the firebox and smokebox as well. The original engines had notably small-looking chimneys so you would need to source that as well.

Dr Al

Quote from: BernardTPM on January 14, 2012, 12:13:32 AM
As well as the boiler you would need to change the firebox and smokebox as well. The original engines had notably small-looking chimneys so you would need to source that as well.

I think N-Brass locos do Fowler chimneys.

Cheers,
Alan
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longbridge

I'm no expert on British steam these days but didn't the Fowler 7F have a similar boiler to the Patriots and original Scots?, thats before Stanier got hold of them and spoiled the look with his taper boiler, bah GWR educated #*%)*
Keep on Smiling
Dave.

Zaonite

I've managed to find a body kit with lost wax cast detailing parts from BH Enterprises for an unrebuilt Royal Scot. I've built a few of their body kits before and they go together ok.

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BernardTPM

A lot of the old BHE steam loco kits were from the D&M range, but AFAIK the Original style Royal Scot was not and is more realistic and detailed. Even so, it was probably designed to fit an old style Farish chassis so there may be compromises with wheel splasher spacing. As it was made to go round a powered chassis while the current Farish Royal Scot is tender drive the chances are that fitting the firebox/boiler/smokebox in place of the Farish parts should not be too difficult, though buying the whole kit for just part of it would be expensive.

PLD

Be careful with your choice of identity for the converted Loco...  Depending on how far you want to back-date it, the tender may also need replacing with the shorter and narrower Fowler Type (which it is not practical to convert the Farish Tender Drive unit to)...

All the Scots were built with Fowler Tenders; a few keeping them until rebuilding though the majority received new Stanier Tenders in the late 1930s, their original tenders being reused with Jubilees then being built.

Paul

Zaonite

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PLD,

Thanks for the heads up on the tender. I was intending to use the tender drive supplied to utilise the DCC capabilities. Since my layout is set in the "mid to late" 1930s I think I might just get away with it ;)

I am now convinced that this will work, and as work is started I will start a conversion log in the relevant forum. (Lets hope it doesn't go like this
Dr Weird - This will never work )

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