Quote from: tripper on January 29, 2016, 04:15:23 PM

Quote from: Only Me on January 29, 2016, 11:21:19 AM
I could write a paragraph or two here on reasons, but most know so I wont waste my fingers.

Hi,   I'm intrigued, I've been a member of the Society for a few years but obviously unaware of said reasons.
Regards,
Ken.

In answer to your question: politics! LoL 
Joking aside, just enjoy both the NGF + NGS. They both greatly benefit the N Gauge modelling community.
Let's all stick together and help each other out

Quote from: mr bachmann on January 29, 2016, 08:19:32 PM
I agree, however it includes a shop order form but what do the shop sell ?
couple years back promissed a stock list , once a year but to date nothing.

dont say on line as I dont have a computor , better when old management was in order - what went wrong

I note your comments about the lack of a shop list and would draw your attention to Shop News on page 5 of the Society Newsletter that accompanied your journal.  It states, "if members would like a hard copy, a simple phone call to the shop is all that is required and it will be supplied post free".  This announcement has been made in every journal since the beginning of 2015 when the first list was published.  By sending it out on demand it not only keeps costs down but also ensures that the list is up to date and even shows the number of each item in stock at the date it was printed.

I have already printed off and sent out 3 this morning and would be very pleased to send one to you.

Regards,

Gill
Shop Manager and NGS Committee Member

Quote from: mr bachmann on January 29, 2016, 08:19:32 PM
dont say on line as I dont have a computor , better when old management was in order - what went wrong

Re your first point - use whatever you're using to view this then 

Re your second - it's well-documented, use the Search function if you really don't know ... and I doubt many of those, knowing the reasons, will agree the old was better with hindsight !!!

Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 29, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
Only just renewed membership on Monday a wee bit late this year.  Hope mine is on the way!

Whoops... suggestion to the NGS membership admins: email out a membership renewal reminder. I appear to be lapsed.

Quote from: MikeDunn on January 30, 2016, 02:09:25 PM

Quote from: mr bachmann on January 29, 2016, 08:19:32 PM
dont say on line as I dont have a computor , better when old management was in order - what went wrong

Re your first point - use whatever you're using to view this then 

Re your second - it's well-documented, use the Search function if you really don't know ... and I doubt many of those, knowing the reasons, will agree the old was better with hindsight !!!

as for the computer its usually a quick play when I or the grandkids visit and its one of them big phone like things .
I'll contact the shop for a list , thanks all

Received my Journal yesterday, have had a quick look today.

I think the quality is exceptional, presentation thoroughly professional and content good. I have always looked forward to my Journal and in my view the standard gets better and better Grahame and contributors are to be congratulated.

Roy

IMO Graham as editor has improved the journal and intends to carry on doing so. I am vice chairman of a specialist tropical fish association, and barely half of our committee actually do something to maintain let alone bring improvements for all members to enjoy.

My late Father was a Merchant Navy officer and had a great expression...empty vessels make most noise. I have found and continue to find this to be so often true, that those who contribute nothing, and would never be likely to make the most noise.

The NGS membership is colossal when compared to our fish club, yet still the NGS editor has to appeal for articles just as ours does. It also happens that our committee end up writing articles to put something between the covers of our fish club journal. Just saying...

Quote from: trkilliman on January 30, 2016, 04:10:48 PM
The NGS membership is colossal when compared to our fish club, yet still the NGS editor has to appeal for articles just as ours does. It also happens that our committee end up writing articles to put something between the covers of our fish club journal. Just saying...

That's a valid point, but at least two members have articles in there, yours truly and Peter Fagg. There may well be others. In the last issue I worked with two other members of the forum for an article that went into the Journal. So I think the N Gauge Forum has a good track record then it comes to helping the NGS Journal out.

It's a shame that Grahame isn't involved here any more because that would be one way he could encourage more input from the many expert modellers on this forum.

Cheers, NeMo

Quote from: lil chris on January 29, 2016, 10:00:27 PM
I If our Mr Charles Fagg can write a article for the mag I might try my hand.

Congratulations Peter Charles Fagg on getting your article published, and bravo for mentioning this forum twice in the article and getting that past the censor's red pencil 

Best regards,


Joe

Hello all,

Stated interest first:  I am an NGS VP so I am not entirely neutral in this!

However... I had a flick through the journal this morning and thought it was very good, as ever, but I was very surprised and a little irritated that the NGF wasn't mentioned in the websites section when RMWeb was.

FWIW the bit of the NGS I do - helping to develop our kits and RTR - gets a good look in here as I start threads on all our projects including the timber carrier, colletts, Thompson BGs.

And the NGF has been incredibly supportive of our Revolution trains project too...

Incidentally, we will be announcing a new NGS RTR project and and a new kit here, on our website and on RMWeb in the Spring.

cheers

Ben A.

Quote from: joe cassidy on August 11, 1974, 02:49:28 AM
and bravo for mentioning this forum twice in the article and getting that past the censor's red pencil 

If there is any rift between the NGS and the NGF then I feel comments like these don't help, even if said in jest. Neither is perfect, but both the Society and the forum should be working together to make N Gauge the best it can be.

Happy modelling.

Steven B

Quote from: Steven B on January 30, 2016, 07:59:43 PM
If there is any rift between the NGS and the NGF then I feel comments like these don't help, even if said in jest.

I don't think anyone, anywhere, at any time has said there's a rift between this forum and the membership of the N Gauge Society. 

Cheers, NeMo

There is absolutely no rift between the NGF and NGS.  I've happily been a member of the NGS since the 90's.  I must say that I'm perplexed that the forum didn't make it into the Journal, and felt that it went against the name compendium!   

As I've always said, I'm happy to work with the NGS and have always supported the Society on here by allowing products and articles to be shown, as well as supporting Ben and Mike with their own project.  The whole idea of this forum was to help fellow modellers and to make a 'home' for N gaugers on the internet to communicate with each other.  The Journal is great, but slow for correspondence.

What would be nice is to find out why we were missed, and perhaps include a page in the next Journal to inform NGS members?  I have tried many times to include an advertisement in the Journal, but it has never come to fruition.

Quote from: Steven B on January 30, 2016, 07:59:43 PM
If there is any rift between the NGS and the NGF then I feel comments like these don't help, even if said in jest. Neither is perfect, but both the Society and the forum should be working together to make N Gauge the best it can be.

There is no rift between the NGS and the NGF because loads of people belong to both as I do.

You are right that the Society and the forum should be working together to make N Gauge the best it can be.

So why didn't the NGS journal mention the NGF website in their list of useful sites ?


Best regards,



Joe

Quote from: joe cassidy on January 30, 2016, 09:47:31 PM
So why didn't the NGS journal mention the NGF website in their list of useful sites ?

A call for commission of inquiry would have to be formally requested to the NGS committee with a list of backers, I guess. I'm not going to check the procedure, because -effort-.

I go with "it's an oversight" until stated otherwise.