Portland Stone Loads

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Calnefoxile

Quote from: Pete33 on July 15, 2015, 11:13:09 PM

Now that's another very good idea. Potentially cheap, too.

Pete,

How about an even cheaper option, you're in Somerset so why don't you just drive down to Weymouth/Portland and pick up some real Portland stone?? ;)  ;)

And have a nice day on the beach with some fabulous fish & chips.......

Just an idea  :P :P

Regards

Neal

CarriageShed

Quote from: Calnefoxile on July 16, 2015, 02:21:46 PM
Pete,

How about an even cheaper option, you're in Somerset so why don't you just drive down to Weymouth/Portland and pick up some real Portland stone?? ;)  ;)

And have a nice day on the beach with some fabulous fish & chips.......

Just an idea  :P :P

Regards

Neal

I can see a vital flaw in your suggestion (apart from the one that involves petrol being cheap). To be able to drive down to Portland I'd first have to buy a car. I think I'd rather walk down to the very nice fish and chip shop nearby and save on the petrol... and insurance... and car tax... and MoT... and... well, you get the picture  ;)

Bangor Lad

Still working (when I get a chance) on the blocks. Prototypes should be done tomorrow.

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Pete,

Will these do for you?
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Sorry I didn't have a more suitable wagon to show them off on.

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CarriageShed

Dave, those look pretty good to me. With a suitable dusting of stone over the wagon planking and sides they'll really look the part. Was that with Milliput?

Bangor Lad

Quote from: Pete33 on July 24, 2015, 10:04:23 AM
Dave, those look pretty good to me. With a suitable dusting of stone over the wagon planking and sides they'll really look the part. Was that with Milliput?

Thanks, Pete

Yes, fine white Milliput. Painted with Vallejo Ivory followed by a thin wash of Yellow Ochre and finally a light white drybrush to pick up the edges etc. If you want them drop me a PM and I'd be happy to pop them in the post.

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CarriageShed

Quote from: Bangor Lad on July 24, 2015, 12:29:09 PM
Yes, fine white Milliput. Painted with Vallejo Ivory followed by a thin wash of Yellow Ochre and finally a light white drybrush to pick up the edges etc. If you want them drop me a PM and I'd be happy to pop them in the post.

PM sent, thanks.

When it comes to producing stone dust to coat the wagons carrying these, would white mixed with a touch of yellow or light brown do the trick, do you think?

Bangor Lad

Quote from: Pete33 on July 24, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: Bangor Lad on July 24, 2015, 12:29:09 PM
Yes, fine white Milliput. Painted with Vallejo Ivory followed by a thin wash of Yellow Ochre and finally a light white drybrush to pick up the edges etc. If you want them drop me a PM and I'd be happy to pop them in the post.

PM sent, thanks.

When it comes to producing stone dust to coat the wagons carrying these, would white mixed with a touch of yellow or light brown do the trick, do you think?

You've a couple of options. The shades you've suggested would work as a very thin wash. This will settle in the gaps between planks and around any iron work. The best way will be to use multiple layers, building up the density until you get something you're happy with. The alternative would be to use pastel chalks in pale beige shades. These chalks are cheap and last forever.

Hope this is of help.

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CarriageShed

The completed Portland stone loads look pretty good on dedicated stone wagons, but the ropes look too thick. Leaving them off might be a better option (unless you're a trackside worker who faces the risk of being crushed by a loose load of stone).





Ropes or otherwise, thanks must go to Dave for some excellent Portland stone.

:thumbsup:

Bangor Lad

Quote from: Pete33 on September 01, 2015, 10:17:53 PM
The completed Portland stone loads look pretty good on dedicated stone wagons, but the ropes look too thick. Leaving them off might be a better option (unless you're a trackside worker who faces the risk of being crushed by a loose load of stone).





Ropes or otherwise, thanks must go to Dave for some excellent Portland stone.

:thumbsup:

Looking good, Pete and glad to have been of help.

What have you used for the ropes?

Cheers

Dave

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CarriageShed

Quote from: Bangor Lad on September 02, 2015, 02:44:51 PM
What have you used for the ropes?

Just bared and twisted wire, around four strands per rope, I think. Painted frame dirt, glued into position, snipped at the ends. The ends were given a dab of superglue to prevent them splaying, and then a dab of paint to hide the metal.

Dorsetmike

For the rope I'd suggest cotton or fine thread; the most common northbound freight on the S&D was clay from the Purbecks, Portland stone was more likely to be sent via GWR if bound for midlands and north, SR for eastwards, any stone over the S&D would be Purbeck, or possibly Mendip.

Interesting duty in later years, was for a black 5 leaving Bath around 1 or 2 am with Mails for Bournemouth, same loco would then return to Bath on the up Pines, back on the down Pines, then on freight, some from Branksome  but mostly clay from Poole, (dep around 7 or 8 pm) which had been tripped there earlier in the day from Norden and Furzebrook, duration of the duty was around 23 hours IIRC. Not sure if this would have been the  same duty in earlier days  - pre black 5s.
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CarriageShed

Quote from: Dorsetmike on September 02, 2015, 03:10:21 PM
For the rope I'd suggest cotton or fine thread; the most common northbound freight on the S&D was clay from the Purbecks, Portland stone was more likely to be sent via GWR if bound for midlands and north, SR for eastwards, any stone over the S&D would be Purbeck, or possibly Mendip.

The 'rope' is actually holding the load in place. I didn't have the heart to glue them to the nice job of painting I'd done on the wagon floors. Maybe one day in the future I will, once I've been able to work out whether I'm going to run wagons back empty or just pretend they're empty.

This is a Portland stone load for Bournemouth West via the SR, so it won't touch the S&D metals. A Purbeck stone load would be interesting though. Any idea of wagons used and the state of the load itself; intact or broken up?

msr

I would have thought that open wagons would have been used for Purbeck clay tranport with the loads protected by tarpaulins.

I don't know if Purbeck Stone itself (as opposed to clay) would have ever been transported by rail. This decorative stone (a shelly limestone) has been much sought after for at least a thousand years and traditionally has been transported by sea, and then by lorry in the 20th Century. I am not aware of any railhead to the quarries but perhaps someone can enlighten us further.

bridgiesimon

Hi there Pete, when I have to rope down items/loads/tarps on wagons, I strip a length on plain multicore wire, separate the strands, paint them a rope sort of colour and use that, it is very fine but strong enough to pull tight when tying or glueing in place and strong enough to last, hopefully -

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Simon

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