populating passenger stock

Started by portland-docks, June 26, 2015, 10:17:13 PM

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portland-docks

well im only just getting round to adding passengers to my heritage railway stock, starting with the dining train.

but while i wait for my 300 non painted passengers to arrive, im starting to wonder if i have enough!

how many passengers do you reckon i need for my coaches?

my rolling stock currently stands at....

1-7 coach dining train
2-7 coach B+C mk1
3-6 coach maroon mk1
4-5 coach choc/ cream mk1
5-8 coach choc/ cream collett
6-5 coach bullieds
7-4 coach maunsells

im begining to think the 300 passengers will literally only just do the dining train!

do i need to order more?

paul
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ozzie Bill.

surely it depends on how busy your trains are, such as time of day, main or branch line etc. Also, you don't need to have every seat filled. In real life, it is rare to see most trains full, except busy lines in peak hour and, as you cannot really see though the carriage, you are looking for effect. This should be achieved by having pax sprinkled around the place, rather than in rigid rows. Cheers, Bill.

scotsoft

I feel your heritage stock would be mostly full as these seats are bookable plus you will need a few doing a kamikaze lean out of the coach windows taking pictures  :camera:

I have populated some coaches and it is not a job I would like to sit down with a lot of coaches in front of me.  It is more do one coach at a time, especially as you have to paint the people which is tedious at best  :headbutt:

I would be tempted to put the cheaper Chinese figures on the inside of the coach where they won't be seen unless picked up and peered into.  If you have not seen them close up I could send you a few to evaluate  :thumbsup:

These are just my thoughts though  ;)

cheers John.

PLD

I usually reckon on filling around 30-40% of the seats is sufficient to make it look busy, especially if you put most of them in the window seats...

So your 300 people is probably about right for 900-1000 seats worth of coaches, or 15-16 BR mk1s...

portland-docks

Quote from: scotsoft on June 26, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
I feel your heritage stock would be mostly full as these seats are bookable plus you will need a few doing a kamikaze lean out of the coach windows taking pictures  :camera:

I have populated some coaches and it is not a job I would like to sit down with a lot of coaches in front of me.  It is more do one coach at a time, especially as you have to paint the people which is tedious at best  :headbutt:

I would be tempted to put the cheaper Chinese figures on the inside of the coach where they won't be seen unless picked up and peered into.  If you have not seen them close up I could send you a few to evaluate  :thumbsup:

These are just my thoughts though  ;)

cheers John.

Since i have a couple weeks before they arrive, pics would definaty be appreciated!

I definatly feel i will need to order alot more figures for my stock!
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railsquid

#5
Here's one I populated earlier (this year):



My first, and so far only attempt. (It's a Japanese sleeper train restaurant car, in case it looks unfamiliar). It does actually look better in real life. The sitting figures are cheapo ones from China, the standing ones (barely visible) are more detailed ones (Japanese sleeper train restaurant car staff) from Kato, but kind of hard to see.

D1042 Western Princess

#6
Or, as Shakespeare might have put it, "To fill, or not to fill? That is the question"  :hmmm:.
Might I suggest that it depends on your layout?
For example, full coaches, in practice just a handful of passengers sitting by window seats, plus a few 'window hanging' in doors, will convey the 'impression' of a busy train, are fine when running in service but if you hold your stock between turns if full view, such as in carriage sidings, then it just looks 'silly' to have 50 - 60 people in the coaches  ::).  OK, the occasional passenger has been taken into the sidings over the years  :-[, but not a train load.
If you are not holding the stock in sidings though so that all your trains are seen 'in service' then that's different again.
Ultimately only you can make the final decision but I have chosen on Peltin not to populate as it's a lot of work and the only time people can really be seen is when the stock is in the carriage sidings (the time I don't want them to be seen!).
I hope this helps.
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joe cassidy

Be careful not to add too many passengers - it might reduce the number of coaches your locos can haul  ;)

Best regards,


Joe

portland-docks

really? didnt think they would add any weight at all really! my diner needs to be relativly full, my other stock doesnt need to be though
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Newportnobby

Quote from: PLD on June 27, 2015, 08:36:14 AM
I usually reckon on filling around 30-40% of the seats is sufficient to make it look busy, especially if you put most of them in the window seats...


Funny that :hmmm:
It's what all our local Indian* restaurants do ;)

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joe cassidy

Quote from: portland-docks on June 27, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
really? didnt think they would add any weight at all really! my diner needs to be relativly full, my other stock doesnt need to be though
Depends on how much they eat  :D

best regards,


Joe

D1042 Western Princess

Quote from: joe cassidy on June 27, 2015, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: portland-docks on June 27, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
really? didnt think they would add any weight at all really! my diner needs to be relativly full, my other stock doesnt need to be though
Depends on how much they eat  :D

best regards,


Joe

:claphappy: :beers: :D.

I found that comment most amusing Joe.

Actually, in real life, a full train (as in 'crammed') accelerates far more sluggishly than a lightly loaded one - passenger weight makes a difference.
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georgehgv

Quote from: joe cassidy on June 27, 2015, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: portland-docks on June 27, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
really? didnt think they would add any weight at all really! my diner needs to be relativly full, my other stock doesnt need to be though
Depends on how much they eat  :D

best regards,


Joe

Not really as the food is already in the kitchen or in the passengers the weight would be constant barring some unfortunate visits to the WC. Which might then create an unbalanced diet.  :confused1:
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