Hi all,

I've been doing a bit of reading up and it would appear that the Met Class K 2-6-4 was heavily based on the Southern N class locomotive. The two designs share the basic chassis, boiler, cylinders and cab style. It might be possible to make a 'K' while retaining the Farish N class boiler and add a bogie to the back of the locomotive (similar to what the Met did).

The 6 K class locomotives become LNER stock c. 1937 along with some other Met tank engines but all of this class was withdrawn by October 1948.

There'd be a bit of exploring to do, especially as a method would need to be found to alter the current Farish tender loco pick up arrangements. If a suitable solution to this could be found would there be any interest in this locomotive?

Quick disclaimer, this is not a project that will likely start this year, just putting the feelers out.

Southern River also, or were those rebuilt into moguls with the other-sized driving wheels?

Les

Quote from: Les1952 on June 24, 2015, 09:14:36 PM
Southern River also, or were those rebuilt into moguls with the other-sized driving wheels?

Les

I think (and you're really testing my knowledge of the Southern now!) that the Rivers were rebuilt into the U and U1 classes depending on whether they had two or three cylinders. The Rivers also had a short wheelbase than the N and as you said, larger driving wheels (6'?).

Got an idea for a W class but I won't be using the N class for this...

Let's wait for the Ns actually to arrive before we start planning how to carve them about, shall we? 

I should say, though, that this enticing possibility has been at the back of my mind for some time now. There's a little plan tucked away at the back of my mind for Verney Junction. Metropolitan / LNWR - what's not to like? But, nice though the K class is, it's the Metropolitan 4-4-4T I REALLY want.

(Well, anything's possible ... it's not that long ago since people were saying an N gauge Blue Pullman was a hopeless pipe dream; and who saw the Brighton Belle coming, hmmm?)

Quote from: PGN on July 06, 2015, 10:50:37 PMLet's wait for the Ns actually to arrive before we start planning how to carve them about, shall we? 

Or more to the point, lets wait until I can afford to buy an N Class to dissect!

Quote from: PGN on July 06, 2015, 10:50:37 PMBut, nice though the K class is, it's the Metropolitan 4-4-4T I REALLY want.

You and I both! Although taken into LNER stock at the back end of 1937, it would appear that the H2s (previously Met H class) largely remained in London Transport livery until the summer of 1938! In my opinion, that lovely red/maroon colour would make a lovely contrast to the usual LNER liveries. I did look at the 3MT as a potential starting point for one of these but, alas, the valve gear is way too long to make this an easy conversion for a production body. I will keep on the lookout for something suitable though.

I've also got some drawings for a four wheels full brake and milk van but I think that passenger style rolling stock remained with LT after they sold the H, K and G classes. I do know that the majority of freight stock went to the LNER, what happened to the coaches?

Atso - have you considered making it a free-wheeler and powering it from a vehicle in the train? Then you might be able to make it by carving up a Peco Jubilee chassis. Just lose the rear drivers and replace with a suitable bogie. I've not checked the dimensions or anything - but that's the way my thinking on such matters tends to go.

Jeremy

Quote from: PGN on July 09, 2015, 11:01:10 AM
Atso - have you considered making it a free-wheeler and powering it from a vehicle in the train? Then you might be able to make it by carving up a Peco Jubilee chassis. Just lose the rear drivers and replace with a suitable bogie. I've not checked the dimensions or anything - but that's the way my thinking on such matters tends to go.

Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,

The problem is that the con rods on the H are coupled to the front driving wheels and therefore for every donor locomotive I've looked at it's the front set of driving wheels that have to go. Jubilee wouldn't be a bad starting point but you'd still need to do some heavy surgery to the valve gear. The closest I've found so far would be the 2MT but you'd have to live with the coupled wheelbase being noticeably shorter (if you know the prototype). The nice thing is that I know the Farish fairburn wheels can be directly swapped for the H so it'll have scale driving wheels. I've not got a spare 2mt to try this on at the moment - still be some heavy work to the chassis block though...

Ahhhh ... that's not so good, then.

Like I say, I've only had a few rough ideas so far, without really trying to look too closely into the practicality ...