Quote from: PLD on August 12, 2014, 06:06:37 PM

Quote from: Bealman on August 12, 2014, 11:03:17 AM
Responding to PLD's post, is it that important that other modellers take N gauge seriously? I'm an N gauge modeller and this is a forum dedicated to such.

I don't care what modellers in other scales think, and I have stated many times here that I find 00 gauge models look like plastic toys.

Grunt. 

Sadly that blinkered "my scale (or region or era or control system etc) is best and I don't care about anything else" attitude is far too prevalent in this hobby, and unless yours happen to be the dominant sector is a dangerous and self defeating stance to take.

Good modelling is good modelling whatever the scale or subject and it is dissapointing that some don't appreciate it...


Would you not like to see more N gauge layouts featured in the Magazines, or more N gauge layouts appear at exhibitions, or more trade support for N gauge, or more talented modellers take up the scale???

The wider the exposure and the greater the market, the more chance there is of manufacturers expanding their output and the more chance of all our 'wish lists' being fulfilled.

None of this will happen unless N gauge is viewed a serious modeling scale and viewed on a level playing field with other sectors.

Clearly you have a passion for the scale, which is laudable, but what is needed is to spread that passion outside the closed shop of those already modelling in the scale

Paul

September Modeller is great for N - no less than three layouts featured and Railway of the Month the fantastic Melton Mowbray North.

Roy

Quote from: PLD on August 12, 2014, 06:06:37 PM
Good modelling is good modelling whatever the scale or subject and it is dissapointing that some don't appreciate it...

Hi

That is very, very true. You can also learn a lot from other modelling disciplines and it is a good idea to a least take a look at some of the techniques used by the Military Modellers.

Cheers

Paul

I can see the logic in helping market growth.

At no time did I suggest that other scales had lesser standards of modelling. I have seen some excellent layouts in other scales. I am also aware that many techniques such as scenery and wiring apply to all scales.

My point is one of amusement - this looking down the nose at N seems to peculiarly British thing.. prevalent here too, by the way - one of the reasons I left the British Railway Modellers of Australia.

It certainly does not occur in Europe or the US, where N has long been accepted as a mainstream modelling scale.

Quote from: Bealman on August 13, 2014, 07:00:25 AM
I can see the logic in helping market growth.

At no time did I suggest that other scales had lesser standards of modelling. I have seen some excellent layouts in other scales. I am also aware that many techniques such as scenery and wiring apply to all scales.

My point is one of amusement - this looking down the nose at N seems to peculiarly British thing.. prevalent here too, by the way - one of the reasons I left the British Railway Modellers of Australia.

It certainly does not occur in Europe or the US, where N has long been accepted as a mainstream modelling scale.

I think that's a bit of sad post you've contributed there, George.
In our club we have O, OO, EM, P4, OOn, and N gauge models all currently being built. No body looks down on anybody else's chosen scale, except in good humoured banter; 'we all celebrate when another chair is laid on the p-bore layout' for instance.
I don't blame you for leaving a club that has some members wh look down on other modellers, but I like to think hat as a community of modellers we can all celebrate each others work, no matter what scale, era etc. In fact hat is he best thing about this forum, here is almost no modelling snobbery.

Cheers
Kirky

Kirky

I couldn't agree more, mate. I think you have misread my post.

The very thing I love about this forum is the friendly and fun nature that we have here. Your club and the projects you have going sound great!

I have said before here, we are all just playing trains.

There is no snobbery from this NGF member, I assure you. Actually I'm thinking about modelling rain gauge 

George

Quote from: Bealman on August 13, 2014, 09:06:22 AM
Kirky

I couldn't agree more, mate. I think you have misread my post.

The very thing I love about this forum is the friendly and fun nature that we have here. Your club and the projects you have going sound great!

I have said before here, we are all just playing trains.

There is no snobbery from this NGF member, I assure you. 

George

I don't think I did misread your post George, but my 't' key doesn't work very well on my ipad, and the chn were getting a bit tetchy, so I pressed post before re reading. So where is says 'he' and 'here' it should say 'the' and 'there' respectively.
To clarify, I agree completely, the NGF has (almost) no modelling snobbery, which is the best thing about this forum.
And sorry if it sounded like I was accusing you of snobbery, I really wasn't. I was only saying that I thought it was disappointing that you were made to feel that you had to leave the BRMA due to snobbery.

Anyway, back to Mr Tumble!

Kirky

Yes indeed, mate. Let's get back on topic.

I had other issues with BRMA at the time (20 years ago).

Absolutely no offence taken. As you say, Kirky, it's all about modelling, and for the record, I love the detail on new models.

Which is the subject of the thread.

Cheers,

George