Quote from: newportnobby on June 10, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
Having watched the ITV programme, quite frankly I was appalled at the behaviour of all the road rage perpetrators. OK, I sit in the car and curse a bit, but have never wound the window down to vent my spleen, let alone physically assaulted someone

The only time I have shouted out of the window is at a cyclist I nearly killed - because he was cycling the wrong way round a roundabout    I was waiting to pull on to the roundabout, looking right for a gap in the traffic. When there was one, I pulled away...

...and had to test my brakes with an emergency stop, as the cyclist came from my left! I did shout at him - he just ignored me and carried on round the roundabout...  And he wasn't young - looked like he was old enough to be my grandfather! 

...and, before anyone says that I should see things from the point of view of the cyclist, I have been a cyclist and a motorcyclist in my time - and I have always tried to be careful and considerate to all road users, and always tried to obey all the laws of the road. (See my previous post about the highway code.) Just a shame that I can't say the same for all the other road users - whatever they use on the roads!

I think the hard metal tracks of a tank might damage the road somewhat!   

I cycle and believe in responsible cycling, myself sick of ignorant light jumpers and pavement pansies.  Encountered one of these nerks whilst walking back home just now.  When I'm on foot, I'm a pedestrian, and therefore have right of way on the pavement.   

Quote from: MattJ on June 10, 2014, 06:17:39 PM
I think the hard metal tracks of a tank might damage the road somewhat!   

I cycle and believe in responsible cycling, myself sick of ignorant light jumpers and pavement pansies.  Encountered one of these nerks whilst walking back home just now.  When I'm on foot, I'm a pedestrian, and therefore have right of way on the pavement.   

Driving a tank I might just get my own back on some of those who regard me as a non-entity when I am astride my trusty steed!   Peter.

Quote from: MattJ on June 10, 2014, 06:17:39 PM
I think the hard metal tracks of a tank might damage the road somewhat!   

I cycle and believe in responsible cycling, myself sick of ignorant light jumpers and pavement pansies.  Encountered one of these nerks whilst walking back home just now.  When I'm on foot, I'm a pedestrian, and therefore have right of way on the pavement.   

Not where I live, Cyclists have the right of way whether on the road, pavement, promenade  or pedestrian area.

Dodger

I do think people should be forced to spend some time on a bike as part of learning to drive. May help the obesity epidemic and would almost certainly make people realise how vulnerable you are on a bike, when not doing stupid things like riding the wrong way around roundabouts...

As a public service i shall summarise this thread:

some car drivers are rubbish and sometimes kill people

some cyclists ride stupidly and sometimes annoy people

spot the difference?   

please feel free to now continue citing pointless, unprovable examples of the other side of your argument doing stupid things   I shall randomly chip in examples i make up proving my point that the outcomes of poor driving control are worse for the cyclist.

and i need to give thanks to the first person who said "but they don't pay road tax!!!1!!!1!! and it's unfair!1!!1!"

Quote from: petercharlesfagg on June 10, 2014, 06:25:35 PM


Driving a tank I might just get my own back on some of those who regard me as a non-entity when I am astride my trusty steed!   Peter.

Kenny Everett suggests a Sherman Tank & Crushes a Classic leyland Mini

now that was a genius programme, pity it never seems to be repeated

Quote from: Zakalwe on June 10, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
As a public service i shall summarise this thread:

some car drivers are rubbish and sometimes kill people

some cyclists ride stupidly and sometimes annoy people

spot the difference?   

please feel free to now continue citing pointless, unprovable examples of the other side of your argument doing stupid things   I shall randomly chip in examples i make up proving my point that the outcomes of poor driving control are worse for the cyclist.

and i need to give thanks to the first person who said "but they don't pay road tax!!!1!!!1!! and it's unfair!1!!1!"

You seemed to have omitted the point that some cyclists ride stupidly and are killed by motor vehicle drivers and that those drivers have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
My uncle sadly knocked down and killed a child who ran out between parked cars and he was never the same again - even giving up his job as a sales rep.

I would also say to all that any posts regarded as personal attacks by the Mod team will be removed - please remember this is against the forum Code of Conduct.

Noted.

the point i was trying to make was that this type of thread is too polarised to be genuinely useful with examples of inappropriate behaviour traded for little gain.

Quote from: Zakalwe on June 10, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
As a public service i shall summarise this thread:

some car drivers are rubbish and sometimes kill people

some cyclists ride stupidly and sometimes annoy people

spot the difference?   

please feel free to now continue citing pointless, unprovable examples of the other side of your argument doing stupid things   I shall randomly chip in examples i make up proving my point that the outcomes of poor driving control are worse for the cyclist.

and i need to give thanks to the first person who said "but they don't pay road tax!!!1!!!1!! and it's unfair!1!!1!"

The comments I made from the pedestrians point of view are provable, you only have to walk along the promenade  between Southbourne and Sandabanks at the week end to see the arrogance of cyclists who totally ignore the rules applied by the council. The only reason there are no accidents is because the pedestrians give way to cyclists despite signs every 100m warning cyclists of the speed limit that applies  to them and the fact that pedestrians have right of way.

When the Council staff attempt to apply the cycling ban i July and August the cyclists start riding again as soo nas they are out of sight.

And of course there is always the case of a child who was crossing a road under "greenman" conditions but was knocked down and badly injured by a cyclist who totally ignore the red light stopping  road traffic.

Dodger

QuoteAnd of course there is always the case of a child who was crossing a road under "greenman" conditions but was knocked down and badly injured by a cyclist who totally ignore the red light stopping  road traffic.

That's it though isn't it. [/i]The[/I] case, where the victim was injured. Tragic yes. What about the dozens killed every year by cars in hit and runs? Let's sharpen our pitchforks for car drivers eh? Oh wait, killing with impunity in a car is completely acceptable.

There has been a good debate on this with good points made. Overall, the view seems to be that more care is needed by all on the roads. I think that this thread has run its course and there is a danger of repetition so I am now locking this thread