This promotes safe cycling very well 


Halfords #getonyourbike EXCLUSIVE

Quote from: NTrain on June 07, 2014, 12:57:56 PM
This promotes safe cycling very well 


Halfords #getonyourbike EXCLUSIVE

What on earth were they doing with their Left hands, learning to fly? 

Notice all of them wearing helmets too?

Halfords ought to be taken to one side to explain!!

Peter.

Even motorcyclists (of which I am one), behave strangely. Last night I was driving along the A43 near Silverstone. Two motorcycles joined the road, and proceeded to pass every motor vehicle and then slowed to 60. They then positioned themselves one in each lane, so we all had to drive at 60. This continued for a couple of miles, until two more bikes came along and also got held up (a bit of weaving, to say the least). One of the new bikers than got somewhat annoyed, and almost shunted one of the original ones off the road. Seemed to sort out their problem, and we all got on with our journeys!

Oh, and I passed my Cycling Proficiency in 1961!

I drive fire engines thru the streets of Sydney or a living and I could count on one finger the amount of cyclists who follow the road rules. Now I ride too and how do you try and teach the kids when all they see is adult doing everything wrong. I hate it when they cut in thru the traffic then pull up in front of you and I'm sure they have never heard of red lights
Bart

C'mon guys, no ones said they don't pay "road tax" yet?! Let's have a full house of bigoted stereotypes shall we?

- 2/3 of cyclists in London ride along at a snail's pace holding up traffic in London and thus deserve to be run over? No they don't. A few jump red lights. They're idiots. A lot of car drivers drive recklessly, they're more likely to kill someone. A lot of lorry drivers appear to be narrow minded oafs.

- cyclists are advised to ride 2 abreast to avoid dangerous overtaking manoeuvres. They don't hold up traffic, they are traffic. In fact they have more right to be on the road than a motor vehicle, which must be taxed, insured and licenced to be there

- the Government advise cycle paths are not used by those doing more than 15mph. That's a very modest pace for a half reasonable cyclist, not to mention the debris you find in them, having to give way constantly at every side road, the pedestrians, dog walkers etc.

Some cyclists flout the law, they're a minority. Some car drivers flout the law. In fact I'd say far more car drivers do, and they're a shed load more dangerous while they do it.

More can be seen on this subject at 9pm on ITV1 tonight

Quote from: njee20 on June 08, 2014, 09:31:09 AM
C'mon guys, no ones said they don't pay "road tax" yet?! Let's have a full house of bigoted stereotypes shall we?

Beside they shouldn't be on the road as they don't pay road tax!
Don't know how I overlooked that.

I find it amazing that the various governments haven't locked onto this untapped source of revenue.  Very atypical.

CFJ

Quote from: NinOz on June 10, 2014, 12:34:24 PM

Quote from: njee20 on June 08, 2014, 09:31:09 AM
C'mon guys, no ones said they don't pay "road tax" yet?! Let's have a full house of bigoted stereotypes shall we?

Beside they shouldn't be on the road as they don't pay road tax!
Don't know how I overlooked that.

I find it amazing that the various governments haven't locked onto this untapped source of revenue.  Very atypical.

CFJ

I DO pay road tax, for my car!

I pay for cycling by taking the scratches, the knocks, the swearing, the bad behaviour of some motorists, WITHOUT taking their numbers, reporting them or taking them to court! 

I have lost teeth, damaged feet, broken wheels and a Black eye from an irate motorist who needed to vent his spleen, I was the nearest object!

I would LOVE to drive a tank!!!

Regards, Peter.

The point is that no one's paid road tax since 1937, roads are funded from general taxation, but that doesn't stop a not insignificant minority of motorists believing the fact they pay VED (based on vehicle emissions, thus it would actually be zero for bikes anyway), gives them more entitlement to use the roads.

Why don't pushbikes have a means of identification? And insurance? And monthly MOTs?

I see dozens of bikes every day with no brakes or fixed wheel!!!

Njee20, you stated that a few 'cyclists' jump red lights; not in that film last night. The majority did.....

Quote from: oscar on June 10, 2014, 03:48:03 PM
Why don't pushbikes have a means of identification? And insurance? And monthly MOTs?

I see dozens of bikes every day with no brakes or fixed wheel!!!

Njee20, you stated that a few 'cyclists' jump red lights; not in that film last night. The majority did.....

**Sensationalist journalism in not entirely representative stance shock** 

I cycled into London this morning, a few jumped lights, perhaps 10% at some junctions, generally less. Always worse in summer, the occasional cyclists come out. A similar number of cars and buses jumped lights, motorbikes were the worst I'd say for traffic violations - speeding, using ASL boxes etc.

Cars don't have a monthly MOT, why should bikes!? A car fails an MOT for things that are dangerous too, the risk of serious injury or fatality if something fails is somewhat higher with a car too!

Most do have insurance - the vast majority of house insurance will include third party liability cover. For competitions cyclists must be insured too, either through the individual event or with membership of either the British Cycling Federation or the Cyclist's Touring Club.

Having watched the ITV programme, quite frankly I was appalled at the behaviour of all the road rage perpetrators. OK, I sit in the car and curse a bit, but have never wound the window down to vent my spleen, let alone physically assaulted someone

Nope, me neither. There are nutters in all walks of life, some drive cars, some ride bikes, some are pedestrians!

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Why shouldn't they?

A lot of the ones I see, especially the teenagers', are only fit for junk.
And they're ridden at high speed on pavements!

Quote from: petercharlesfagg on June 10, 2014, 12:58:44 PM
I would LOVE to drive a tank!!!

Regards, Peter.

I'm not sure there is that much stopping you. You need to pass class 'H' I believe it is (tracked vehicle) which you can do by learning in a mini-digger or similar and then doing the test.

You can do the test in some classes of road legal armoured vehicle but not others (even if they are road legal post test). In fact I gather the examiners *love* that except for the emergency stop... You may also need a crew of 2 depending upon the vehicle (one to give the hand signals the other to drive)

So there's nothing stopping you driving a tank except maybe the fuel bill and the insurance You are also very unlikely to get clamped or towed!

Alan