Quote from: HD on November 13, 2025, 02:29:20 PMPeco only seem to provide concrete sleepered points in electrofrog mode (Why?)

When concrete sleepers were first used, in the 1960s, the sleepers were just a standard track size, so all points were made with (longer) wooden sleepers. That has only changed quite recently (others with more knowledge on the subject will tell you exactly when) and so Peco only do a few points in concrete sleeper style.

HTH
Bob

Sorry to wander a little way off topic but just to say that I'm in the first initial stages of beginning to lay Peco track for a relatively modern image DC analogue layout using isolating points. Peco only seem to provide concrete sleepered points in electrofrog mode (Why?) so I'm pleasantly surprised at the result of carefully painting with a discontinued Crown emulsion paint shade of "Dark Cream" of which, entirely fortuitously, I found a small tester tub forgotten in the shed. Presumably there are close current shades by proprietary paint manufacturers which would fit the bill, at less cost than Railtech "Concrete". (My old tub of Dark Cream is a closer match to Peco's concrete sleepers.)
It all takes time but recently retired (and thus recently new to railways modelling - this my first attempt) time is now in good supply.       

Some models are geared slower but 45% sounds like it needs a service.   Without comparing it like for like with another Dapol 22 it's difficult to tell.  Can you measure the current draw? (run on DC with a multimeter on Amps in series with the track feed).   Does it get warm to the touch when running?
Lubing the gears will only get you so far, it may be other bearings which need lube, it may need the motor commutator cleaning and/or brushes cleaned or replaced (depends on the motor used as to whether or not that's even possible). 

For £100 I'd expect it to be as new.  Was it all nicely boxed with blurb, or does it look well used, wheels dirty or worn, fluff in the bogies etc.? I'd be wary of second hand DC locos priced that high unless it's something very rare and have confidence any minor issues can be fixed.

Hello , I've bought yet another second hand loco (Dapol class 22), via a dealer on eBay. It needs at least 45% power to move, but it is in very good cosmetic condition. As suggested by the retailer I've very lightly oiled the exposed cogs underneath the  loco, run it for 30 minutes each way and cleaned the wheels. There is some improvement. I cannot carry out any service on the item.

What should I expect from a second hand loco that I've paid £100 for? My other locos ( a mixture of Farish , Dapol and Sonic) all run at between 20 and 30% so the track seems to be adequate.


Geoff

My wallet is going to take a hammering here, I want Green Arrow as I have many memories with the preserved one, and I also want a BR Black and BR Green for my next layout plan, all with sound too

Quote from: Roy L S on November 13, 2025, 11:49:01 AM

Quote from: Shropshire Lad on November 13, 2025, 10:16:48 AMLNER green and sound models now showing December/January arrival.
Cheers Colin

And one of the two BR green non-sound ones is also Dec/Jan, only the non-sound 60964 "Durham Light Infantry" will be arriving before that.

Bachmann site showing it (372-613) as this month. Huzzah!!

Quote from: Shropshire Lad on November 13, 2025, 10:16:48 AMLNER green and sound models now showing December/January arrival.
Cheers Colin

And one of the two BR green non-sound ones is also Dec/Jan, only the non-sound 60964 "Durham Light Infantry" will be arriving before that.

Damn - they're good, and I really like a lot of the tracks they select to cover

Sorry for late reply, but glad you folks like Leonid and Friends. I've been listening to them for several years and really appreciate them trying to stay true to the original vice adding their own flair (at least on the studio videos).

Oh yeah, Ides of March actual commented on this one.


https://youtu.be/fX8g_JEJol8

LNER green and sound models now showing December/January arrival.
Cheers Colin