HI All

I had some advanced FSA FTA wagons sent ahead for checking and i'm pleased to report the look and run as anticipated.

I said i would give warning that the Pre order price would be going up to £60.00 per Pair of outers and £120.00 for the 4 car set .

The new prices will take effect on the 1st of February "next Sunday"

Regards Arran

Quote from: will99 on Yesterday at 05:30:07 PMwhy are the LMS ones so much cheaper  ?

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-825e-class-47-0-d1601-br-green-small-yellow-panels-diesel-locomotive?_pos=113&_fid=0c2be8d97&_ss=c


https://railsofsheffield.com/products/lms-10001-br-lined-green-late-crest-diesel-locomotive?_pos=14&_fid=4ce70a8a8&_ss=c

The LMS 'twins' are actually a fiver more at RRP, £184.95 vs £179.95... Those are one specific retailers discounted prices...

The 47 is RRP-15% which is the lowest they are permitted to go within the first 90 days after release. The Twins have been around quite a while now and that is seemingly one of the less popular liveries (note other liveries e.g. LMS Black 10000 are not so easily found) hence -46% (which is admittedly a very good reduction) to clear remaining stock.
Older releases of 47s can be had for £120ish elsewhere.
If you wait a while, that particular 47 might be discounted further, or on the other hand it might sell out at that level - you take that gamble...

I do not have that particular class 47 but have several examples and can say they generally run very well.

More importantly the Class 47 were extremely common and long lasting, as such they are essential for many modellers regions and era.

I suggest the higher price is simply a supply and demand issue based on this.

By the same logic, the LMS "Twins"  only ever had two examples (detail differences aside) and as such are rather more niche for modellers needs. As such I am not sure they have sold that well and can be found in many sales.

Skyline2uk

Hi,

Looking at the Graham Farish Diesel Locos we seem stuck between the Class 47/0  D1601 for around £152  or one of the LMS1000/1 twins which are just under £100, in Black or Green livery.

Interested to know what others think of these two diesels, is either any better than the other and why are the LMS ones so much cheaper  ?

TIA.


https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-825e-class-47-0-d1601-br-green-small-yellow-panels-diesel-locomotive?_pos=113&_fid=0c2be8d97&_ss=c


https://railsofsheffield.com/products/lms-10001-br-lined-green-late-crest-diesel-locomotive?_pos=14&_fid=4ce70a8a8&_ss=c

Quote from: EtchedPixels on Yesterday at 12:58:22 PM

Quote from: cmason on Yesterday at 12:10:51 PMtennis racket ). I think I can lay thin strips of that within the underframes, in between the trusses. For other printed vehicles I have used Deluxe Materials liquid gravity but correct fitting of that on these vehicles is harder as there are no real cavities...

Be very careful with the glue if using anything lead based. Apart from needing to remove it to resell the item there's a nasty set of reactions between some glues (notably PVA) and lead based items that causes the stuff to expand.

I've seen a few too many models where lead and glue expanded and literally tore the model apart from the inside - even white metal boilers, or warped it.

Thanks - and noted.

Although this particular lead basically comes as a roll of "sticky tape" with its own backing glue.

On top of that in regard of selling - I cannot really see anyone ever wanting to buy the models that I have built myself....

Quote from: cmason on Yesterday at 12:10:51 PMtennis racket ). I think I can lay thin strips of that within the underframes, in between the trusses. For other printed vehicles I have used Deluxe Materials liquid gravity but correct fitting of that on these vehicles is harder as there are no real cavities...

Be very careful with the glue if using anything lead based. Apart from needing to remove it to resell the item there's a nasty set of reactions between some glues (notably PVA) and lead based items that causes the stuff to expand.

I've seen a few too many models where lead and glue expanded and literally tore the model apart from the inside - even white metal boilers, or warped it.

Further evidence, then, of domestic black holes of which I have writ elsewhere. Lost items always re-emerge from the black hole in exactly the place where they should be and have looked ten times before. Good that it has restored your faith in your fellow man, though.

Cheers,

Chris

Quote from: joe cassidy on Yesterday at 11:51:34 AMFor pipes I use the fake straw used in the packaging of certain types of cheese here in France.

These are thin-walled, about 5mm diameter, but very light so won't add much weight to the wagon.

Yes - for normal weight wagons plastic in one form or another is good however for these 3-D print jobbies I need more ballast.

Anyhoo, I actually had another idea and have just bought some sticky back lead of the sort sold in rolls to golfers and tennis players (used to adjust the balance of golf sticks and tennis racket ). I think I can lay thin strips of that within the underframes, in between the trusses. For other printed vehicles I have used Deluxe Materials liquid gravity but correct fitting of that on these vehicles is harder as there are no real cavities...

For pipes I use the fake straw used in the packaging of certain types of cheese here in France.

These are thin-walled, about 5mm diameter, but very light so won't add much weight to the wagon.

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