Good one, Mick.

All the very best of the season to you, and all our members, wherever you are.

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year, everyone!

George

Quote from: Steven B on Today at 10:59:50 AMOne coach:
Southwell, 1959: https://flic.kr/p/zF9TZU

Two coaches:
Coniston 1958: https://flic.kr/p/o3c6J6
Northampton 1959: https://flic.kr/p/AtBPpS
Holcombe 1959: https://flic.kr/p/guKk3E

Three coaches:
Deganwy, 1955: https://flic.kr/p/GJY3vB

The Welsh Dragon in the Deganwy photo is the definite for me, 1x DBT+2x Comp doable from the range offered, just need to renumber one of the comps.

[Note the Northampton shot is Period 2 stock.]

Quote from: leachsprite4 on Today at 11:04:46 AMAre these the coaches?
https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrk152.htm

No - the planned Dapol models are Period 3 style coaches.
The pair closed to the Camera are ex-LNWR vehicles, and the far end driving trailer is either a P1 type or ex-LNWR. The intermediate coach at the far end not 100% sure but looks like a period 2 Lav-Composite.

When I was a teenager I worked for the Co-Op "on the milk" weekends and school holidays.

They paid me £5 for a weekend.

You could get a fair few pints for that in those days

Are these the coaches?
https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrk152.htm

Quote from: madchadbrad on Today at 09:31:58 AMFor a push pull train there would be a DBT and a push pull fitted comp; but could there be an all third and a BT as well or would they too have to be push pull fitted (there is no mention of that in Dapol's list)? Otherwise it'd be just a 2 coach train.

For Push-Pull operation, there would be a Loco at one end of the set and a Driving Control coach at the other end (driving end outwards of course).

In between could be any number of coaches provided they were all "motor fitted" - that means they have the through pipework and electrical connections to connect the Loco to the driving coach. The LMS had fitted Composites and 3rds, though Dapol's initial list only includes fitted Comps.

Theoretically any number of intermediate vehicles could be included, unlike the GW mechanical system where slop in the linkages limited it to one intermediate vehicle. The practical limitation is in the power of the loco (mostly Tanks of power class 1&2) and formations of more than 3 coaches were uncommon, with 2 coaches probably being most common. On the LMS it was very rare (but not totally unknown) for the loco to be in the middle between 2 driving trailers.

Most common formations from photo evidence would seem to be:

• Loco - Composite - Driving Brake Third
• Loco - Third - Driving Brake Third
• Loco - Driving Brake Third
• Loco - Third - Composite - Driving Brake Third
• Loco - Composite - Composite - Driving Brake Third
• Loco - Third - Third - Driving Brake Third
• Loco - Third - Third - Composite - Driving Brake Third

There's a brief overview of (ex)LMS Pull and Push trains here:
https://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/Push%20Pull%20YTT.html

I've yet to find any photos of Pull and Push trains with more than three carriages, which given that the system was vacuum based would suggest that's the physical limit of the system (just like the GWR was limited to two vehicles because of the mechanical linkage).

Pulled trains could be longer, whilst its possible that pushed trains could have additional vans added behind the loco.

One coach:
Southwell, 1959: https://flic.kr/p/zF9TZU

Two coaches:
Coniston 1958: https://flic.kr/p/o3c6J6
Northampton 1959: https://flic.kr/p/AtBPpS
Holcombe 1959: https://flic.kr/p/guKk3E

Three coaches:
Deganwy, 1955: https://flic.kr/p/GJY3vB

Quote from: cmason on Today at 04:04:37 AMReally looking forward to purchasing these models.

In my teens I made a model of the driving brake third based on a GRAFAR suburban coach following inspiration by an article in Railway Modeller (May 1977, page 144). Unfortunately it got lost along the way, somewhere in all the moves of the last nearly 50 years since its creation. As such I had, only fairly recently, purchased upon Fleabay a sacrificial suburban with an intent to carry out a similar act of butchery ( with apologies for such a sacriligous act to SPAM, to be passed on via John @Train Waiting ). Now it seems that that example of the classic Poole suburban will be saved from the knife, thanks to @Stevie DC and all at Dapol for providing the new DBT,

Cheers,

Colin. 

Well i found just such a thing on Ebay and to add insult to Injury lifted the white metal end and grafted it ( pretty well by my standards) onto a contemporary Farish Suburban brake... Since then i have discovered offerings from Isinglass (lner) and now this... ( if it comes to pass). 

Quote from: madchadbrad on Today at 09:31:58 AM

Quote from: Steven B on December 10, 2025, 04:02:59 PMFrom the Comet/Wizard models instructions:

BT/T (with van inboard)
BT/C/BT
BT/C/T/BT
BT/T/F/T/BT
BT/C/BT/BT/T/BT
BT/T/F/T/T/BT

No mention of locations or dates.

For a push pull train there would be a DBT and a push pull fitted comp; but could there be an all third and a BT as well or would they too have to be push pull fitted (there is no mention of that in Dapol's list)? Otherwise it'd be just a 2 coach train.

I will bow to others with greater knowledge, but it was my understanding that a push-pull set would typically be restricted to two coaches due to limitations of the control linkages between loco and coaches.

I still cant put pictures on the main Forum .
BUT CAN I WISH YOU ALL A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY HEALTHY NEW YEAR
BOB