Apart from my 'iconic' trains e.g. Poppylino, IET800 and HST sets I try to refrain from 'Rule 1'
Unless something is plausible, it won't be run

I never really was into Black Sabbath, or indeed his solo work. I did see him perform as Ozzy supporting someone, possibly AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest. My only memory was of him grubbing around on the stage like some kind of knuckle dragging neanderthal. They did some tunes I quite liked, but were always a bit too dark for me.

However, I respect the influence, the energy & the commitment & its always a shame to see a heavyweight of any sort depart this mortal coil.

What has followed him, & others of his era, do nothing for me so I always get a bit melancholy as to the loss of decent talent.

The 'man upstairs' is gonna be in for a shock.

Im glad its been of educational help and improved ones knowledgeable. The photo was taken at a station near Swansea on the way to Cardiff and im not going to spell , pronounce it. Definitely Rule 1 and why not Mick something different.  I remember Freightliner trains AC electrics hauled or 47s, but growing up in Crewe 25s, 31s, 40s, 47s could turn up. As for western hauled the links give clues

Quote from: emjaybee on Yesterday at 10:25:30 AMWell, bless my soul. You learn something new every day. I'd have thought there'd have been some years between Westerns & Freightliners.

@emjaybee I could be wrong but I seem to recall the early Freightliners coming through Wolverton in the late 60s/early 70s but, in those days, they were AL electric hauled. I've also seen an EE Type 4 hauling them. Having never seen them in the wild on the Western Region, I thought I'd ask the question as it's one of the trains I'll maybe take to the Leyland show

Quote from: Newportnobby on Yesterday at 09:54:59 AM

Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2025, 10:08:12 PMQuestion and answers here

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/53140-westerns-on-freightliners/

Good stuff. To quote 'Pathfinder' off RMWweb

hope this is of some use to someone, yes they did work Freightliners, and on a daily basis, its just nobody took pics !

Well, bless my soul. You learn something new every day. I'd have thought there'd have been some years between Westerns & Freightliners.

Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2025, 10:08:12 PMQuestion and answers here

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/53140-westerns-on-freightliners/

Good stuff. To quote 'Pathfinder' off RMWweb

hope this is of some use to someone, yes they did work Freightliners, and on a daily basis, its just nobody took pics !

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 23, 2025, 02:41:53 PMMaybe the Beatles as you've not heard before - but I am old.

Wow, I actually like this version better.

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 23, 2025, 09:59:23 PMTonight I took the Blue Pullman, the Kato IET800, a blue Hymek with blue parcels stock and this.
I've posted clips of the others before so just the one this evening. If anyone can confirm this could have or did happen please let me know.........

Well it looks like it happened to me. Maybe confirm with another club member who was definitely there as to whether you were there too? 

Probably Rule 1 Mick



https://community.hornbyhobbies.com/forums/topic/32919-did-class-52-westerns-ever-haul-freightliners/

Question and answers here

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/53140-westerns-on-freightliners/

If that helps mainly south Wales to Fishguard for the Rosslare Crossing



J. Vanes
Danygraig Swansea with Fishguard portion
4E70 to London Stratford c 1975



https://www.railmagazine.com/operations/freight/freightliner-s-50-years
Suggests c 1968
A short lived Par Plymouth to London Park Royal service
52 hauled

Tonight I took the Blue Pullman, the Kato IET800, a blue Hymek with blue parcels stock and this.
I've posted clips of the others before so just the one this evening. If anyone can confirm this could have or did happen please let me know.........

D1043 Western Duke with 'Freightliner Limited' on Heatherley by Mick Hollyoake, on Flickr