Seems sad to have only a thread for purchases and with the board getting bigger its hard to follow all the construction thread.
So here's my opener for today. A Corringham Railway coach this time in roughly the state it was in for real towards the end.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Corringham.jpg)
This is todays. It was actually a quick build to use up a slightly damaged pair of old sides. The coach body is an ancient Mike Howarth 60' clear LMS shell which I threw together then sprayed and fitted the sides. The LMS bits are not quite right - there seems to be no good source of LMS coach decals at the moment so the 3 isn't quite the right size/shape but will do.
It's actually a "convertible" third/sleeper designed to get day use as quite a nice roomy third class coach but then be converted into 3rd class sleeping accomodation by night.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/1709-1.jpg)
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/1709-2.jpg)
On the whole I'm quite pleased with it - enough I might actually go back and replace the Howarth underframe bits with better ones and remove the generic roof vents to put the correct pattern on the roof - some day 8)
I've also finished off this beastie over the past few days
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Palethorpes.jpg)
Alan
I really like the LMS 3rd/sleeper coach, in particular. Is the lining painted or decals?
I hope to post something in this thread eventually, but I haven't actually completed any kits yet (as opposed to RTR detail/repaint jobs) other than a couple of basic Peco wagons! I do have quite a few lined up for future projects though, including some of your pre-grouping 4-wheel coaches.
Nothing wrong with posting Peco wagons if you built them and finished them - post them up!
The coach sides are sprayed with primer, then with a suitable red car paint. The lining strips are modelmaster decals. The are actually very nice for this kind of work as they are a bit stronger than the Fox ones - they don't curve very well but for lining coach sides that is a positive win. Plus its easier to line than many coaches as the lining follows the panelling so there is effectively a ruled line on the coach body to follow
Alan
LMS post war ex Ambulance coach conversion to a full brake.
Not entirely happy with this in a couple of spots and may someday tweak the roof a bit. It didn't help that the as I was trying to get it done quickly the duckets decided to go for a slight wander after I'd painted it so had to be fixed back up.
(I did make it to the pub for closing time however :beers:)
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/catalogue/images/1033.jpg)
One of the remaining problems (apart from the joy of adding rainstrips) is the roof colour. On the prototype the photos suggest it was almost black with dirt.
Some day it could also do with footboards.
Alan
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad118/EPinniger/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Paintedwagons12-122.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/EPinniger/media/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Paintedwagons12-122.jpg.html)
These are the only two Peco kits I've built so far, an "Insulfish" and standard 12t box van (the open mineral wagon is a repainted RTR model). This photo was taken rather a long time ago, hence the unweathered track and lack of buildings (or even a tunnel portal).
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad118/EPinniger/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Class142.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/EPinniger/media/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Class142.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad118/EPinniger/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Class14withmineraltrain2.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/EPinniger/media/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Class14withmineraltrain2.jpg.html)
I suppose this Class 14 also counts as a kit build though it started as a single-piece resin moulding (Parkwood) rather than a kit as such! But I did detail it with assorted scratchbuilt bits.
Again a rather old and not particularly brilliant photo with the layout looking even more bare and unfinished than it does now. Hopefully now I have a new digital camera I should be able to take better photos than this of any future rolling stock I build!
Ok my contribution. Neither are new and both have appeared in my 3D modelling thread before but both represent my most recently completed projects.
First up my K3, 3D printed body on a much modified Farish V2 chassis.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k481/Atso-Cad/2013-01-13160746_zps27153250.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/Atso-Cad/media/2013-01-13160746_zps27153250.jpg.html)
Next is my J50. Again 3D printed body on a N-Stars custom built chassis.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k481/Atso-Cad/2013-01-13165617_zpsa2462ea7.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/Atso-Cad/media/2013-01-13165617_zpsa2462ea7.jpg.html)
Both were taken in January at the St. Albans exhibition while they were guests on the 'North of England Line'. Many thanks to Mike J and the team who let me play trains that Sunday afternoon. The streamlined B17 in the background is not my work...
Having seen the pictures of the upcoming Bachmann clayhoods I decided it was time to finish the Parkwood kit ones: especially as the Bachmann one looks like its been fitted with a teacosy
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Clay.jpg)
1 down 8 to go...
Lots of '3' decals on this one and LNER and numbers so a trifle fiddly to decal. Teak on the other hand is easier to paint than many people think. The colour patterns hide brush marks and you can repaint a panel if need be as they never all matched.
The 'Lining' is also a bit of a con. It's painted in weathered teak and then drybrushed in a paler teak colour to give texture and grain. As the dry brushing tends to put paint more on the raised lines you get the impression of all the lining for free !
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Gres3rd.jpg)
Alan
Well here is my little effort. It is a Parkside Dundas Grampus. It is not yet finished, as I need to get some transfers before it is weathered, but I am not sure about the colour. I have used a weathered black acrylic from Lifecolour. What is the best black for a departmental use early sixties?
David
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=6314;preview (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=6314;preview)
I've also used weathered black and then added dirt on top - that looks the part to me - at least for a fairly clean one.
Alan
A new (well second hand) Suburban Coach for Newdale...
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk285/vuldalm/Trains/DSC_0126.jpg) (http://s283.photobucket.com/user/vuldalm/media/Trains/DSC_0126.jpg.html)
I have concluded a rolling stock collection is never complete this coach pretty much gives me what I need for my operations at this stage...not that I'd say know to a few more wagons etc...
:wave:
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh497/shuglet/SDC10722.jpg)
The Narrow gauge fleet. Just awaiting nameplates and couplings
They are looking Great Mike 8)
dave :thumbsup:
Nice .. whats the origin of the one on the right ?
From Left to Right.
Peco Tram Loco bought from EP
ZCGB Diesel bought from N Tastic a while ago - This is a 0-4-0 centre wheelset removed from Marklin chassis
French Nm Locotracteur 62 from Shapeways. Uses the 0-6-0 chassis from Marklin 88641
WW1 simplex from Shapeways - non powered
Gresley Sleeper First. Etched sides, butchered Dapol coach.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/GresSleeper.jpg)
Quote from: EtchedPixels on August 11, 2013, 08:30:09 PMGresley Sleeper First. Etched sides, butchered Dapol coach.
Please tell us more - are they, the sides, available? B
Original sides sawn out, and yes the etches will be available in a while. That one is one of the old pre lightbar coaches so sent me back I think it was £8 when they were on special offer :thumbsup:
Fox Transfers do the decals needed including sleeping car decals (although with all the gold and stuff they are not cheap)
GWR M11. This is a 70ft parcels/stowage van built to the full GWR 9' gauge.
My ultimate goal is to do the M10 which is the 'Ocean Mails' coach to similar design but that has more complications (recessed doors) so I figured I'd start with an easier one.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/M11.jpg)
Alan
I have converted a Tomix TM-18 20m chassis for use under the N-Train / ERG 313 series kit (now available). The basic chassis has been fitted with TPM sideframes with the mounting points cut flush with 3D printed components from Bob's underframe.
From the picture it is quite apparent that the wheelbase of the bogies is slightly too short but when on the track it is barely noticeable. Perhaps not a 100% satisfactory motorising solution but it runs like a dream and is quite cheap to buy at under £40.00 from eBay.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2890/9582081892_7878238c3e_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7421/9579294685_86367f35a2_c.jpg)
And also finished off an NMT conversion with the new-style vinyls for a customer commission:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7384/9589729099_53580d6c53_c.jpg)
Todays project. The hardest parts of this were finding the chassis and getting the decals to go on.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Coronation.jpg)
Alan
Here's a Cravens 1957 Mk1 Prototype, using my new-style sides on a GF Mk1.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3726/9610735232_763c26dcab_c.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/9610735186_9328bc5837_z.jpg)
Makes a change from stripy EMUs! :)
Quote from: captainelectra on August 27, 2013, 09:13:16 PM
Here's a Cravens 1957 Mk1 Prototype, using my new-style sides on a GF Mk1.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3726/9610735232_763c26dcab_c.jpg)
Makes a change from stripy EMUs! :)
That looks great. Very professional :thumbsup:
Quote from: EtchedPixels on August 25, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
Todays project. The hardest parts of this were finding the chassis and getting the decals to go on.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Coronation.jpg)
Alan
Excellent! I assume it's based on the Langley white metal body kit?
I wonder if BachFar will eventually produce a Streamliner, based on their forthcoming Princess Coronation chassis...
Neil
Its the Langley kit yes
Where do you draw the line between scratch and hack?
Three Southern 4-6-0s,
Urie H15, Langley S15 loco body, BHE N15 tender, Chassis Minitrix 2077 with Fleischmann 7161 valve gear (Note to self - Must add some coal!)
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Urie N15 King Arthur class Camelot, BHE kit, locxo chassis Peco Jubilee, tender drive Union Mills plus an extra pair of wheels
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Maunsell S15 class, Langley loco body with cab hacked and footplate levelled over cylinders, BHE N15 tender Minitrix 2077 tender drive
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Boiler bands are Fox LNER white/black/white, other lining freehand with Rotring drawing pen and opaque inks (ruler usd for some straight lines) Bogie side frames Worsley Works etches with cast axle boxes.
An SECR 45ft third.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/SECR3rd.jpg)
Very nice work indeed!
Some great work on here. I'm particularly taken with Etche's Coronation class and DorsetMike's southern locos (right in the period I'm modelling).
Sorry for those who have seen this one on my workbench thread but this is my most recent kit built (scratchbuilt? Does CAD designing count?) loco.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k481/Atso-Cad/3D%20Prints/N2Complete4_zps28d58bff.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/Atso-Cad/media/3D%20Prints/N2Complete4_zps28d58bff.jpg.html)
BernardTPM's GWR brake sides, 3D printed shell and some car paints for the sides
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/K40Brake.jpg)
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 24, 2013, 09:52:59 PM
BernardTPM's GWR brake sides, 3D printed shell and some car paints for the sides
E.P what car colour have you used for the maroon ?
Jerry
For maroon I use
Ford Burgundy Red over white/grey or Ford Damask Red sprayed over black. They produce different shades but both look good to my eyes and it gives a better mix
For BR(S) I use Rover Brooklands Green sprayed over black.
E.p i dont suppose i could talk you into a kit build for me could i?
Watch out. Flood gates being forced open :D
Quote from: portland-docks on September 26, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
E.p i dont suppose i could talk you into a kit build for me could i?
Nope. Got enough of my own stuff to build - and I'm probably going back to work in a few weeks so will have even less time.
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 26, 2013, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: portland-docks on September 26, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
E.p i dont suppose i could talk you into a kit build for me could i?
Nope. Got enough of my own stuff to build - and I'm probably going back to work in a few weeks so will have even less time.
Alan
Dam, no problems cheers e.p
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 26, 2013, 10:09:59 PM
I'm probably going back to work in a few weeks so will have even less time.
Best of luck with that Alan, off to set the world alight again... Hopefully this won't affect the supply of kits! :worried:
Nick
This was a prototype of the Thompson BZ kit that didn't quite get the roof right so seemed a good thing to finish off and use to experiment with rust effects
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/RustyBZ.jpg)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad118/EPinniger/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Q12.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/EPinniger/media/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Q12.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad118/EPinniger/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Q13.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/EPinniger/media/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/Q13.jpg.html)
Ex-SR Q1 0-6-0 built from the Langley kit on a Farish chassis - I picked this up very cheap as a built model, stripped the poor original paint job and rebuilt it with a lot of extra detail. The tender is a modified and detailed Farish Bulleid tender (the seams on it appear a lot more prominent in the photos, due to the lighting). Other than Langley vacuum pipes and a couple of modified Peco figures for the crew, all the detailing is scratchbuilt, including the pipework and sand boxes (most of which were missing from my second-hand model!)
All it needs now is the addition of headcode discs. It's not the greatest of Q1 models, even with the added detail, but it was a fun modelling project and has allowed me to add this loco class to my layout at a price I can afford (unlike the Dapol one); and the heavy weathering job hides at least some of the defects!
I should have some better photos of it (hopefully with discs) in a future update on my layout thread.
My current project is a Langley GWR railcar (another ancient relic of a kit!); I also have some Gramodels LSWR wagons and various NGS kits lined up, along with an assortment of tatty old RTR open wagons for repainting and weathering (currently my non-PO open wagon collection is a bit limited, consisting of one wooden 7-plank and a few steel 16t wagons)
Very nice bit of modelling there with the Q1.
Cheers,
Alan
E, your Q1 looks absolutely great to me, defects or otherwise. I look forward to seeing more pics of it.
Quote from: E Pinniger on October 28, 2013, 06:15:38 PM
Ex-SR Q1 0-6-0 built from the Langley kit on a Farish chassis - I picked this up very cheap as a built model, stripped the poor original paint job and rebuilt it with a lot of extra detail. The tender is a modified and detailed Farish Bulleid tender (the seams on it appear a lot more prominent in the photos, due to the lighting). Other than Langley vacuum pipes and a couple of modified Peco figures for the crew, all the detailing is scratchbuilt, including the pipework and sand boxes (most of which were missing from my second-hand model!)
All it needs now is the addition of headcode discs. It's not the greatest of Q1 models, even with the added detail, but it was a fun modelling project and has allowed me to add this loco class to my layout at a price I can afford (unlike the Dapol one); and the heavy weathering job hides at least some of the defects!
Some years ago I picked up one of these on ebay for £20 so your pictures have given me inspiration to have a go at upgrading it, as I too find the Dapol one beyond my pocket!
Jerry
As this is the loco kit and scratch-build thread, it might be a good place to ask about coal rails. I've been able to source all of the other items needed to upgrade older locos with extra detail, such as vacuum pipes, hooks, lamp irons, etc, mostly from N Brass Locos and Ultima. The one thing I haven't seen anywhere is coal rails. Primarily the ones I need would be for LMS and S&DJR locos (most of which were of a Midland design), both 4-4-0s and 0-6-0s.
Does anyone know a seller for coal rails?
Might be worth contacting BH Enterprises and seeing if they sell the coal rail etch from their whitemetal fowler tender kit separately.
Or just buy the complete kits and replace your tenders (assuming they are the Farish ones, they are way overscale - stretched to fit the standard Farish tender underframe). Relatively expensive, but really transforms the locos.
Cheers,
Alan
Thanks Alan. Contacting BH Enterprises for possible separate sales seem like being the only way. I haven't done any kit building yet so constructing new tenders is a bit out of my league.
Quote from: Pete33 on November 22, 2013, 08:23:19 PM
Thanks Alan. Contacting BH Enterprises for possible separate sales seem like being the only way. I haven't done any kit building yet so constructing new tenders is a bit out of my league.
The white metal tenders are not too hard to build on the whole.
If you give me dimensions I can quote for coal rails. I've done them for various (mostly 2fs) folks and providing you are not in a hurry usually work out cheap as they slot nicely into awkward to fill gaps in etch sheets.
You can also make them out of wire or fine plastic strip, both of which actually can produce an even better look, but does take a bit of patience.
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 22, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
The white metal tenders are not too hard to build on the whole.
If you give me dimensions I can quote for coal rails. I've done them for various (mostly 2fs) folks and providing you are not in a hurry usually work out cheap as they slot nicely into awkward to fill gaps in etch sheets.
You can also make them out of wire or fine plastic strip, both of which actually can produce an even better look, but does take a bit of patience.
Thanks for the kind offer, Alan.
I finally managed to unpack all of my books today. That gave me the chance to look up coal rails on 2Ps and 4Fs (LMS/S&D 4-4-0s and 0-6-0s respectively). Surprisingly, they weren't particularly in evidence in many photos, and it was the 4Fs that had them predominantly, not the 2Ps. That means just one loco needs them for the moment, and that's a Graham Farish Fowler 0-6-0 tender.
If I'm right then the Farish tender on a Fowler is too long, which means that the entire tender should be replaced. If that's right then it's a job best left until I've gained a little more experience, but if the tender is okay, then perhaps fitting in just one set of rails isn't worth your time. What do you think?
Given the new 4F I think I'd be considering the new model ! The 2P is trickier but then if you've got a Farish 2P it's not a very accurate model anyway so I'm sure some overlong coal rails won't hurt.
The Union Mills 2P is a much better beastie
Let me know the sizes and if there is a thin spot to hide them I'll let you know. Its trivial to do and very long thin spaces are quite common on sheet layout. If it don't fit then tough :P but nowt ventured nowt gained
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 24, 2013, 01:07:47 AM
Given the new 4F I think I'd be considering the new model ! The 2P is trickier but then if you've got a Farish 2P it's not a very accurate model anyway so I'm sure some overlong coal rails won't hurt.
The 4F
is the new model. :D I was extremely lucky to pick it up at a bargain £32 and all it needs is renumbering and re-lettering.
During a bit of research I found photos of several 4Fs with coal rails in LMS service, with them being fitted from the late 1920s onwards. It's almost impossible to pin down when specific locos had them fitted, but there's a photo of BR 44388 at Bath Green Park with them (ex-S&D No 59), so that's my justification for adding them to this chap:
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9130_zps2cd4fe9d.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9130_zps2cd4fe9d.jpg.html)
The coal area is 25mm long by 15mm wide.
The S&D 2P is much harder to pin down when it comes to using coal rails, but I did find some LMS examples. As I'm focussing on 1930, just after the LMS took over locomotive operations on the S&D and the last Prussian Blue locos were waiting to be repainted, I think I can sneak this one in.
This is the Graham Farish 2P:
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN7633_zps8f8a1055.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN7633_zps8f8a1055.jpg.html)
The coal area on this one is also is 25mm long by 15mm wide, because they appear to be exactly the same model of tender. The 4F tender is a simple moulded shell with nothing inside (it came off when I was unpacking the loco). The 2P tender has something inside as there's a wire connecting to the loco body. Either way, taking out the moulded coal to replace it with some 'real' coal might be tricky.
Anyway, I appreciate the offer. December is loco upgrade time, as I'll be able to get a host of other parts, but don't worry if you can't squeeze these onto a sheet any time soon. It's the thought that counts. :)
Sorry, Pete, but your 4F is not the new model as that is still in the pipeline from Farish.
The good news is the tender is to be fitted with coal rails
I have a early 4F which I have had chipped and a 4P which looks the same as your 2P but mine is LMS crimson number 1111. They are both the same dimensions as yours so Alan if it makes it more worth your while make two sets for me too and I will fit them to mine too. Just let me know if ok and how much you want for the trouble.
I must add I have never done any scratch buliding yet so this would be a newy for me. I did see a couple of 4F's at the wigan show with coal rails on the tenders and they did look good ,I think they were kit built tenders perhaps.
Give me the dimensions and I'll see - it usually works out about a pound a set if they can be stuffed into corners that are otherwise not of much use.
HI Alan, If you can make them the same size has Pete33's ie 25mm x 15mm that will be great. No rush when you can fit them in, I am ballasting at the present time and for some foreseeable time.....
Quote from: newportnobby on November 24, 2013, 10:04:59 PM
Sorry, Pete, but your 4F is not the new model as that is still in the pipeline from Farish.
The good news is the tender is to be fitted with coal rails
Ah, you mean the
new new model! :angel:
My one has blackened wheels (although they're still solid and the pick-up strip is still very visible behind them), so I thought it was an upgrade of the original. Perhaps calling it 'new' was a little misleading. Either way, it could do with a new tender one day in the future, but that's way off, so I'll content myself with upgrading what I have for now.
Quote from: lil chris on November 24, 2013, 10:17:13 PM
I must add I have never done any scratch building yet so this would be a newy for me. I did see a couple of 4F's at the wigan show with coal rails on the tenders and they did look good ,I think they were kit built tenders perhaps.
It's a newey for me too, Chris, but I'm determined to get stuck in. Coal rails on a 4F really do look lovely but they were far from universal, so it might be worth checking for photos of 'your' loco to see if it ever had them attached.
Peter
The difference internally is that your earlier loco probably has tender pickups while the BachFarr and later Poole models don't - which is why they don't run so well. IMHO it's a worthwhile addition to fit them (kits of bits from BR Lines).
Will see what I can fit on.
The coal btw isn't too hard to remove. Use extreme violence. Drill a rectamgle of holes through the coal load, file them into one another, remove the centre and then use a big woodworking file to remove most of the rest. Tidy the edges with something less brutal and off you go.
Before doing that though note that you can get a fair improvement by simply glueing a dusting of real coal over the fake.
Apart from that a small (CT or Zimo) DCC decoder goes in the tender along with a cube speaker and all is good. Special bonus for drilling out the body a bit and fitting a smoke generator !
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 25, 2013, 01:42:13 PM
The difference internally is that your earlier loco probably has tender pickups while the BachFarr and later Poole models don't - which is why they don't run so well. IMHO it's a worthwhile addition to fit them (kits of bits from BR Lines).
I think the 4F was a late enough model that none of them ever had tender pickups. Certainly, I bought one new 1997 and it had none.
It ever showed any sign of really needing them either!
Cheers,
Alan
My 4F does not have pickups in the tender but it runs superb, and even better since I had it chipped,slow running is now excellant. I am thinking of eventually re-numbering it and weathering it too, a lot of 4f's and even earlier 3f's run on the line I am modeling.
Quote from: Dr Al on November 25, 2013, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 25, 2013, 01:42:13 PM
The difference internally is that your earlier loco probably has tender pickups while the BachFarr and later Poole models don't - which is why they don't run so well. IMHO it's a worthwhile addition to fit them (kits of bits from BR Lines).
I think the 4F was a late enough model that none of them ever had tender pickups. Certainly, I bought one new 1997 and it had none.
It ever showed any sign of really needing them either!
Cheers,
Alan
The "earlier loco" is the 2P which definitely did come with tender pickups.
It seems to be depend a lot on the exact loco how well it runs without but I do prefer to have tender pickups personally.
I guess it depends on how the 4F runs on your layout (or in my case, my eventual layout). If there's any sign of it having trouble then tender pick-ups will be a must, presuming I haven't replaced the entire tender by then.
Not exactly a rolling stock kit or scratch build, perhaps, but one of my first tasks now that I have some paints and supplies has been to add the first batch of removable coal loads to some of my wagons.
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9477_zps2c6df102.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9477_zps2c6df102.jpg.html)
The base of each load is thick card, folded at either end to hold the base close to the top of the wagon, and then painted black. Then I added a mix from two different model coal loads, one a fine scale 'real coal' and the other the chunkier bits. Allowed to dry and a little drybrushing added in white.
This is actually the result of two weeks of occasional trial-and-error attempts, with the 'real coal' being added in the first attempts and the lumpy stuff being added later. Only the Millom and the weathered LMS LOCO wagon have brand new loads, with both types of coal mixed and added together. Both of these have a second layer of card added on top of the main strip to bulk out the centre. The LOCO wagon had its strip gently folded in the middle to create a peak, and I think this one has turned out to be the best of the lot.
That's the way I'll be doing in in future.
Hi,
So far these have been the only etched brass kits I've built. Got them from Etched Pixels. Relatively easy to put together. In didn't solder them but simply used super glue. They have seats and passengers with clear acetate for the windows.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/N%20Gauge/engineerworks.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/N%20Gauge/engineerworks.jpg.html)
Alex :wave:
Quote from: Alex on November 30, 2013, 03:34:04 PM
Hi,
So far these have been the only etched brass kits I've built. Got them from Etched Pixels. Relatively easy to put together. In didn't solder them but simply used super glue. They have seats and passengers with clear acetate for the windows.
They look great from here, Alex, but how about a close-up? ;)
If I have time I'll dig them out tomorrow and take some close ups.
Alex :wave:
I've had coal rails for Drummond tenders from Worsley Works, used them on some other locos too. He also supplied me with etched loco and tender steps and bogie side frames for Urie and Maunsell 8 wheel tenders (BHE N15 tender kit) with some cast axle boxes they do a good job of concealing Union Mills wheels (with an added axle in front)
Found some photos of my coaches.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/N%20Gauge/Coaches/brass4_zpsd024d8ab.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/N%20Gauge/Coaches/brass4_zpsd024d8ab.jpg.html)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/N%20Gauge/Coaches/100_6049_zps28f28da8.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/N%20Gauge/Coaches/100_6049_zps28f28da8.jpg.html)
Alex :wave:
Quote from: Alex on November 30, 2013, 07:23:36 PM
Found some photos of my coaches.
Thanks! :thumbsup:
They do look really good, even without any markings on them. Are you going to add transfers or lining?
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 30, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
I've had coal rails for Drummond tenders from Worsley Works, used them on some other locos too. He also supplied me with etched loco and tender steps and bogie side frames for Urie and Maunsell 8 wheel tenders (BHE N15 tender kit) with some cast axle boxes they do a good job of concealing Union Mills wheels (with an added axle in front)
I didn't even know they sold spares. The website doesn't say anything (that I can see).
Hi Pete33,
No I wasn't going to add any decals. They were bought for my coal line and were going to be used as miners coaches. From what I gather they were very beat up and not in a very good condition.
Alex :wave:
Quote from: Alex on November 30, 2013, 09:43:57 PM
From what I gather they were very beat up and not in a very good condition.
Alex :wave:
The coaches or the miners, Alex :confused1:
Quote from: Alex on November 30, 2013, 09:43:57 PM
Hi Pete33,
No I wasn't going to add any decals. They were bought for my coal line and were going to be used as miners coaches. From what I gather they were very beat up and not in a very good condition.
Alex :wave:
Yep.. workmens trains were usually pretty basic - but cheap. It gives you a flavour of what they must have been like that there were notices of the form
"Third class ticket holding passengers may travel on workmen's trains at their own risk"
on some lines (and often a discount of 6d or so for those brave souls..)
Alan
Quote from: newportnobby on November 30, 2013, 09:54:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 30, 2013, 09:43:57 PM
From what I gather they were very beat up and not in a very good condition.
Alex :wave:
The coaches or the miners, Alex :confused1:
Probably both....
Just finished - my very first attempts at weathering:
The previous owner of this SR Ferry Wagon had largely scratched off the SR decals, so I decided to go to town with this one, and show replaced boards, and a distinctly uncared-for look. A bit extreme for 1930 but this one's a bit of a one-off to see what I could do:
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9516_zps4c13318b.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9516_zps4c13318b.jpg.html)
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9519_zpsa87e838b.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9519_zpsa87e838b.jpg.html)
The next wagon is much more realistic for the period I'm modelling - fairly respectable with a little wear-and-tear, all achieved with Citadel black wash, diluted Humbrol wood brown (50/50 with acrylic thinner), and some wood-colour drybrushing. Not sure if it's visible here, but I also dabbed on a little gun metal to the buffers so that some metal shows in the middle of the dirt where the buffers have been bumping other wagons:
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9521_zpsa3eaa078.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9521_zpsa3eaa078.jpg.html)
My very first tarpaulin cover on a weathered Farish 5-Plank wagon. The plastic on these seems to be more rubber-based than with the Peco wagons, with the result that it doesn't like to take the paint quite so well, especially on the chassis. The rope ties were a bugger to get on and tie together. Superglue wouldn't 'take' to the chassis at all:
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9524_zps865e7967.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9524_zps865e7967.jpg.html)
And my first wagon loads that aren't coal. I need to strap these down with something other than thread for the ropes. I'd like to attach the ropes to the barrels but not to the wagon, so that the whole load is removable. But the ropes have to look like they're secured to the buffers when the loads are being carried:
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9527_zpsc19489c1.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9527_zpsc19489c1.jpg.html)
That's it for now. I suspect there will be a whole load more weathering now that I've got the hang of it. ;)
Quote from: Pete33 on December 18, 2013, 03:48:47 PM
Just finished - my very first attempts at weathering:
For your first attempt you have done superbly well, they look very realistic :thumbsup:
cheers John.
Excellent piece of weathering, well done. :wave:
Great job and very realistic.
Thanks John, Alex, Port Perran, and Russ. I modelled 20mm Napoleonics back in the 1990s, so I picked up quite a bit of painting skill then. It's surprising how much of it I've remembered, along with reading various hints and tips about weathering in N Gauge.
I wonder how long it will be before I dare to take a brush to one of my locos? ;)
Very nice job the first wagon looks like its been through the wars, perhaps it was shipped to France in 1917 ?
Also like the tarp covered wagon I bought some from the NGS Shop but are still in the " round tuit " day. Where did you get the barrel loads from?
Anyway a great job.
Jerry
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 19, 2013, 02:57:34 PM
Where did you get the barrel loads from?
Jerry
I would imagine from this seller Jerry ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-stacks-of-beer-barrells-n-gauge-suit-Hornby-Lima-Bachmann-/111223428944?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item19e56ed750 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-stacks-of-beer-barrells-n-gauge-suit-Hornby-Lima-Bachmann-/111223428944?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item19e56ed750)
cheers John.
Hi Guys,
Its taken a very long time to get this finished. Worsley class 29 on a farish 33 chassis, cl20 frames with extended couplers & tpm ploughs, 3D printed fuel tank and spoked wheels (etches by EP!). Painted by MK1 (thanks Marc). Sadly she's already left for her new home.....
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Regards
Russ
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 19, 2013, 02:57:34 PM
Very nice job the first wagon looks like its been through the wars, perhaps it was shipped to France in 1917 ?
Also like the tarp covered wagon I bought some from the NGS Shop but are still in the " round tuit " day. Where did you get the barrel loads from?
Anyway a great job.
Jerry
Thanks, Jerry. Maybe 1917 is a little far back for a battered wagon of 1930, so I'll just say that it's one that has managed to dodge any maintenance work for a while and is probably next on the list.
The tarpaulin is just printed paper. I bought a few to see what they're like, but in future I'll print my own. It was creased and crumpled and folded before being weathered with a thinned wash of black acrylic and then a wash of mid-grey. Actually the grey was too heavy, making this one look like its very near the end of its expected three-year lifespan. The next ones will be less worn-looking.
Quote from: scotsoft on December 19, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
I would imagine from this seller Jerry ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-stacks-of-beer-barrells-n-gauge-suit-Hornby-Lima-Bachmann-/111223428944?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item19e56ed750 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-stacks-of-beer-barrells-n-gauge-suit-Hornby-Lima-Bachmann-/111223428944?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item19e56ed750)
That's the one! All painted by hand, including the barrel straps. :scowl:
What can I use for ropes? Fuse wire, do you think?
Peter
Quote from: RussellH on December 19, 2013, 06:30:00 PM
Hi Guys,
Its taken a very long time to get this finished. Worsley class 29 on a farish 33 chassis, cl20 frames with extended couplers & tpm ploughs, 3D printed fuel tank and spoked wheels (etches by EP!). Painted by MK1 (thanks Marc). Sadly she's already left for her new home...
That's a fantastic bit of work (or lot of work, probably). You should have kept it for a few days and enjoyed it- I mean run it in a bit.
Hi Pete
Thanks - Got a sister loco to finish off now.
Rope - try your local sewing shop and look for a suitably twisted thread of the correct colour. Black does wire rope well so maybe some kind of tan/fawn for hessian etc?
Regards
Russ
Quote from: Pete33 on December 19, 2013, 08:28:54 PM
What can I use for ropes? Fuse wire, do you think?
Peter
Hi Peter,
I agree with Russ and if you go to your £1 shop you might be able to find a sewing "thing", the one I got had 24 different colours of thread in it so you could have old ropes and new ropes with the different colours ;)
cheers John.
Quote from: RussellH on December 19, 2013, 09:29:21 PM
Hi Pete
Thanks - Got a sister loco to finish off now.
Rope - try your local sewing shop and look for a suitably twisted thread of the correct colour. Black does wire rope well so maybe some kind of tan/fawn for hessian etc?
Regards
Russ
I have thread here, being a man of many independent means, but I can't get it to look like it's been tied across the load and onto the buffers and chassis without actually attaching it. I'd like the load to be removable. The idea is to use the same wagons with an array of loads, especially some tarpaulin-shielded hay bales in summer. You get the idea.
Daft idea perhaps but would something like this help to attach/hook the thread or whatever material to the buffers? Don't know how small these can go.
Haven't got a wagon or ruler to check dimensions but ...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200-x-SILVER-PLATED-EYE-PINS-EYEPINS-35mm-DIA-0-7mm-/160462724522?_trksid=p2054897.l4276 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200-x-SILVER-PLATED-EYE-PINS-EYEPINS-35mm-DIA-0-7mm-/160462724522?_trksid=p2054897.l4276)
Dave G
It's a nice idea, Dave, but they're the same length as the entire wagon body. Possibly coating the thread in something to stiffen it might do the trick, but superglue just seems to stick in clumps and doesn't really help. That's why I thought of fuse wire or similar, as a couple of strands of it could be twisted to produce a rope effect and it could be bent to shape. I'll have to try and scavenge some and give it a try.
I was thinking mainly of the little eye that could be snipped off and somehow attached to whatever you might use for the rope.
I'd be pleased to learn and see what you finally decide to do!
Dave G
Just occurred to me that coating or dipping the thread/whatever in Copydex may give you the right level of flexing?
Yours faithfully
Heath Robinson! ;)
Quote from: scotsoft on December 19, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 19, 2013, 02:57:34 PM
Where did you get the barrel loads from?
Jerry
I would imagine from this seller Jerry ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-stacks-of-beer-barrells-n-gauge-suit-Hornby-Lima-Bachmann-/111223428944?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item19e56ed750 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-stacks-of-beer-barrells-n-gauge-suit-Hornby-Lima-Bachmann-/111223428944?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item19e56ed750)
cheers John.
Doh !!! I think I may have a few of them around somewhere, together with some crates and the odd coal sack....
Still nice job on the tarpaulin.
Quote from: daveg on December 20, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
Just occurred to me that coating or dipping the thread/whatever in Copydex may give you the right level of flexing?
Yours faithfully
Heath Robinson! ;)
Thanks 'Heath' :D I couldn't even imagine how I'd connect the thread or whatever to the hook and make it look realistic! The Copydex idea might work, though. It's worth testing. Perhaps I should also glue the 'rope' to the barrels first and then work out faking ties on the wagon.
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 20, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
Doh !!! I think I may have a few of them around somewhere, together with some crates and the odd coal sack....
Still nice job on the tarpaulin.
Thanks, Jerry. The tarpaulin was a very quick job - two passes with a brush and some drying time in between. In fact, I think folding it and getting that bundled effect on the sides took longer!
Before it gets too boring, I'll post one last shot of weathered wagons - this being my second batch:
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9551_zpsfec1fd46.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN9551_zpsfec1fd46.jpg.html)
Again the Farish plastic chassis (and also the Dapol) didn't take a wash very well so I think I'll definitely provide a solid undercoat in future. Colours used: Humbrol black 33 (50/50 thinner mix), Humbrol brown 110, Tamiya dark iron & gun metal, plus a matt varnish, with a touch of gloss varnish on some of the less dirtied metalwork at the corners.
Knightwing DBT (well only just, only ended up keeping the main body)...
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu17/RSTA/TMD%20layout%20and%20n%20gauge/IMAG1372.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/RSTA/media/TMD%20layout%20and%20n%20gauge/IMAG1372.jpg.html)
...out of my era now, but will make a decent ornament in the display case.
Quote from: RST on December 21, 2013, 05:51:08 PM
Knightwing DBT (well only just, only ended up keeping the main body)...
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu17/RSTA/TMD%20layout%20and%20n%20gauge/IMAG1372.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/RSTA/media/TMD%20layout%20and%20n%20gauge/IMAG1372.jpg.html)
...out of my era now, but will make a decent ornament in the display case.
Where did you buy it?
Quote from: RST on December 21, 2013, 05:51:08 PM
Knightwing DBT (well only just, only ended up keeping the main body)...
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu17/RSTA/TMD%20layout%20and%20n%20gauge/IMAG1372.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/RSTA/media/TMD%20layout%20and%20n%20gauge/IMAG1372.jpg.html)
...out of my era now, but will make a decent ornament in the display case.
that looks good , i made mine from plastick card , but stuck for decals - so ended up with BR lion , maybe yours a double arrow (till the transfers turn up!)
Quote from: Woolleysh33p on December 21, 2013, 07:13:17 PM
Where did you buy it?
Erm - Knightwing :D
I have one or two somewhere to make up
Yes it was Knightwing. Be a tad weary of it though, the moulding was pretty rough. I removed whatever reminants of the lamp irons (staples), vac pipes (bent track pins), buffers (Lychett Manor) and the hand wheels are from Nbrasslocos. I used spare coach bogies from Dapol, I might have a go at fettling the kit bogies to fit at some point but they don't look too wrong at the moment. If I were to make another I'd just scratch build the body from carved Polystyrene sheet.
Hi all :wave:
Here's a pic of my latest completed kit built rolling stock (sorry for poor pic)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2480_zpsdb439e0e.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2480_zpsdb439e0e.jpg.html)
They are the NGS kit1 21T steel hopper HJO/HJV
With Smiths tarpaulins fitted
The 2 outer wagons have had the coupling removed from one end and replaced with the
Dapol NEM replacement Pockets
all three have had the Peco wheels replaced with Farish wheels
Thanks for looking
dave :thumbsup:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3779/12074691355_45d3d346de.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64017570@N04/12074691355/)
From the Fujimi Tokyo Monorail kit in 1/150 (near enough...)
Paint is Humbrol Rail Colour Acrylic for the blue and yellow, mostly Revell Acrylics for the various other colours.
Decals from Fox Transfers.
:bounce:
Like it! :) You'll be moderated for not painting it in NSE, though!
Mostly I'm wondering why I spent all that time putting armrests I could barely see on the seats...
Quite proud of the little orange 'lights' by the doors though, those went far better than I expected.
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on January 21, 2014, 10:11:46 PM
Mostly I'm wondering why I spent all that time putting armrests I could barely see on the seats...
For the simple reason, you know they are there ;)
Quite proud of the little orange 'lights' by the doors though, those went far better than I expected.
Are the lights functional or fake?
cheers John.
The lights are fake, but they are so small I would have expected to catapult them across the room with my tweezers... :dunce: :laugh:
Neat job, Luke!
Dave G
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5473/12140520583_0e3b589490.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64017570@N04/12140520583/)
I've had these Peco wagon kits for years but never painted them so thought I would take them apart and give them a painting.
The grain wagon is as per their later lives.
The little 5 plank wagons and the brake van are a somewhat hypothetical little engineers train.
Very nicely done. :thumbsup:
I've been tackling my first loco kit of any kind. It's kept me busy for most evening in the last couple of weeks, taking the work stage-by-stage, and waiting overnight for things to dry (and not fall off, which has certainly not been a given!).
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Kits/DSCN9635_zps1767afd1.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Kits/DSCN9635_zps1767afd1.jpg.html)
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Kits/DSCN9636_zps8b305c16.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Kits/DSCN9636_zps8b305c16.jpg.html)
More details here:
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18771 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18771)
Peter
Here are a couple of pics of my latest piece of kit built stock
Its the NGS Gresley full brake
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2514_zpsb5b56fe1.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2514_zpsb5b56fe1.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2513_zpse553a528.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2513_zpse553a528.jpg.html)
Thanks for looking
:beers:
dave :thumbsup:
Quote from: lil chris on November 24, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
HI Alan, If you can make them the same size has Pete33's ie 25mm x 15mm that will be great. No rush when you can fit them in, I am ballasting at the present time and for some foreseeable time.....
Took a while but I have a few sets here now that slotted into gaps on the latest artwork
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 21, 2014, 07:39:02 PM
Quote from: lil chris on November 24, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
HI Alan, If you can make them the same size has Pete33's ie 25mm x 15mm that will be great. No rush when you can fit them in, I am ballasting at the present time and for some foreseeable time.....
Took a while but I have a few sets here now that slotted into gaps on the latest artwork
That's perfect timing. I'm just about finishing off my Parkwood Models resin loco and am thinking about adding tender pick-ups to the 4F in question and digging out the moulded coal at the same time.
Quote from: davieb on February 06, 2014, 10:13:02 PM
Here are a couple of pics of my latest piece of kit built stock
Its the NGS Gresley full brake
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2514_zpsb5b56fe1.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2514_zpsb5b56fe1.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2513_zpse553a528.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2513_zpse553a528.jpg.html)
Thanks for looking
:beers:
dave :thumbsup:
Having now had the couplings bow upwards and disengage from the guide on two of my three, with no method of retrieveing them, did you put a false floor into yours?
Certainly if doing any more I would. There is no route into mine to reassemble the mechanisms.
All the very best
Les
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7361/12722459163_b3833a0d94.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64017570@N04/12722459163/)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5511/12722765574_2474bc6490.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64017570@N04/12722765574/)
After a dig through my box of stuff I found a part finished Peco tippler wagon kit, so the only real solution was another wagon for my engineers train.
Had to do a bit of carving to get the second coupling in place.
Paints are Humbrol Acrylic 401, 417 and 413 on the outside, and Revell Acrylic 91 and Railmatch Acrylic 2235 on the inside for a sort of rusty metallic effect.
Hi Les :wave:
No I Haven't put a false floor in :no:
But I have left the roof just held by the clips and not glued on :worried:
dave :thumbsup:
Not quite complete - the High Speed Track Recording Coach (HSTRC).
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5480/12723522355_e29dd7c6e4_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/12729692904_91c90af9f8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64017570@N04/12729692904/)
And a conflat from the peco kit. Humbrol RC401 dirty black acrylic for the chassis, Railmatch 2235 freight bauxite for the body and Revell 78 Tank Grey for the roof.
Some of the bumps along the side refused to take paint, but it mostly came out ok.
Quote from: captainelectra on February 23, 2014, 05:05:35 PM
Not quite complete - the High Speed Track Recording Coach (HSTRC).
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5480/12723522355_e29dd7c6e4_c.jpg)
It's always good to record there's some track under the wheels :laugh:
There's only one reply to that...
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/12730433625_af1ee113e4_b.jpg)
:bounce:
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on February 23, 2014, 09:11:08 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/12729692904_91c90af9f8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64017570@N04/12729692904/)
And a conflat from the peco kit. Humbrol RC401 dirty black acrylic for the chassis, Railmatch 2235 freight bauxite for the body and Revell 78 Tank Grey for the roof.
Some of the bumps along the side refused to take paint, but it mostly came out ok.
The bumps are very blurry from here, but aren't they the hooking points for the chains? The body probably needed a soapy clean before you painted it, but you could probably still get some enamel steel colour on there.
I gave it a good primering beforehand.
I only do acrylics I'm afraid, bit I might try some steel highlights anyhoo as I have some here... :hmmm:
Built my first kit, the Peco 10ft Butterley wagon.
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I had been running a POA wagon at the head of my 16t minerals (fitted and unfitted) train for the NEM pocket on the end to have a easi shunt there but it didn't look right. I also wanted to try out Dapol's NEM pocket conversion kit which had been bought for me for Christmas so I thought a £3 wagon would be the place to start. As it happened, one of the 16t MCV minerals I was weathering lost a coupling so buoyed by the success of this conversion, got stuck in and gave that an NEM. So I was left with a redundant Peco wagon, in the wrong colours with an Elsie at one end and an NEM at the other. It's part of the rake still but it's pretty crappy compared to the proper Farish one with decals and all!!
Looks good to me :thumbsup:
Looks good to me, too! Where did you get the loads from?
Couple more I've been doing here.
First a 60ft LMS TPO. In the end I used decorative ribbon painted black and glued to the net frame to get something that looked less overscale than any mesh I could find.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/LMS-TPO.jpg)
Secondly an ex LNWR third in LMS livery.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/LNWRThird.jpg)
Quote from: Pete33 on February 24, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
Looks good to me, too! Where did you get the loads from?
Thank you. I made them myself - bits of plasti milk bottle and cotton bud (q-tip) tube superglued onto a plastic platform, painted black, dry brushed silver then drybrushed/painted with a variety of browns. This I've done a post about them if you've any further interest :thumbsup:
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 24, 2014, 11:48:50 PM
Couple more I've been doing here.
First a 60ft LMS TPO. In the end I used decorative ribbon painted black and glued to the net frame to get something that looked less overscale than any mesh I could find.
That looks great. I guess it's a post-war design... or at least very late 1930s?
Quote from: Pete33 on February 25, 2014, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 24, 2014, 11:48:50 PM
Couple more I've been doing here.
First a 60ft LMS TPO. In the end I used decorative ribbon painted black and glued to the net frame to get something that looked less overscale than any mesh I could find.
That looks great. I guess it's a post-war design... or at least very late 1930s?
Dia. 1792 so between 1929 and 1933 if I remember rightly (I'd have to look it up to be sure).
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 25, 2014, 11:37:33 AM
Dia. 1792 so between 1929 and 1933 if I remember rightly (I'd have to look it up to be sure).
That's close enough to 1930 for me (although it will be nice to be sure). I'll have to add it to my wish list.
In the meantime, all done on the Parkwood Models resin loco kit. It took a few attempts to get the minimal weathering right, and it still looks better with the naked eye than it does in the photos!
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Kits/DSCN9718_zps74e5f8f3.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Kits/DSCN9718_zps74e5f8f3.jpg.html)
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/NGauge33/Kits/DSCN9719_zpse7cca566.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/NGauge33/media/Kits/DSCN9719_zpse7cca566.jpg.html)
That's my first loco kit done and dusted. There will certainly be more. ;)
The full project is covered in detail here:
http://www.ngauge.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesNGauge/howto_Diesel10800_Kit.htm (http://www.ngauge.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesNGauge/howto_Diesel10800_Kit.htm)
Congratulations on your first kit Pete, it looks a bit mmore involved than my first kit, kudos to you for taking it on!
Thanks! I think sheer blind, optimistic enthusiasm pushed me on to complete it.
I also have the Parkwood Models SR Maunsell shunter body - the granddaddy of the Class 08 and 09. The second-hand chassis that I have for it doesn't work, though, so it may be a while before I can attack that kit.
Quote from: Pete33 on February 25, 2014, 10:57:38 PM
Thanks! I think sheer blind, optimistic enthusiasm pushed me on to complete it.
I also have the Parkwood Models SR Maunsell shunter body - the granddaddy of the Class 08 and 09. The second-hand chassis that I have for it doesn't work, though, so it may be a while before I can attack that kit.
Ooh you actually have a dud new type class 08/09 chassis ? If you can't fix it do let me know as I'm after a couple of dud ones.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 26, 2014, 12:17:54 AM
Ooh you actually have a dud new type class 08/09 chassis ? If you can't fix it do let me know as I'm after a couple of dud ones.
I'd rather get it fixed! Or at least attempt to. You can see what happens here:
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=19844.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=19844.0)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad118/EPinniger/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/GWRrailcarlayout1.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/EPinniger/media/Model%20photos/Railway/N%20gauge/Trains/GWRrailcarlayout1.jpg.html)
Here's my latest, an ex-GWR AEC railcar built from an old Langley kit on a modified Life-Like (I think!) chassis. I added/replaced a lot of the details on the body and also reworked the bogie sides a bit though they're not truly accurate. The finished result is a bit lumpy and crude-looking compared to the Farish railcar, but I'm still fairly pleased with it and the kit + chassis didn't cost too much second hand.
I'll post some more photos (and a more detailed description) in my "workbench" thread soon.
Here's Royal Mk1 Ladies-in-Waiting Saloon 2900 - a standard Farish Mk1 with the coach ends smoothed down to a more streamlined profile.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1779173_723018717731423_56584492_n.jpg)
Quote from: E Pinniger on February 26, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
Here's my latest, an ex-GWR AEC railcar built from an old Langley kit on a modified Life-Like (I think!) chassis. I added/replaced a lot of the details on the body and also reworked the bogie sides a bit though they're not truly accurate. The finished result is a bit lumpy and crude-looking compared to the Farish railcar, but I'm still fairly pleased with it and the kit + chassis didn't cost too much second hand.
I'll post some more photos (and a more detailed description) in my "workbench" thread soon.
Looks really good, I bought one on ebay (rip off) as it was missing the cab ends so has languished in my to do box for 10 years. This picture may be the inspiration I needed. :thumbsup:
Hello all.
Here is my first ever kit. It is a French railcar: X5500.
The body is made by AIM, a small company. I painted it in a fantasy livery for a touristic line.
The chassis is a Tomytec TM-22. It is not prototypical but it is the only one that fits.
(http://www.herbavache.free.fr/X5500/WP_20131227_007.jpg)
(http://www.herbavache.free.fr/X5500/WP_20131227_005.jpg)
(http://www.herbavache.free.fr/X5500/WP_20131227_006.jpg)
I still need to paint the wheels in brown. I was recommended to use Revell Email color MATT 83.
Once done, I will go on with a kit from Etched Pixels: a lovely British railcar.
Have a nice night.
Really good work, especially for a first kit. :thumbsup:
Test build completed. Quite pleased with this one. The close to scale bogie spacing limits it to about R2 curves but that's ok by me
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/Ironclad1.jpg)
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/Ironclad2.jpg)
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/Ironclad3.jpg)
As well as the non-corridor vans Palethorpes also owned a few corridor sausage vans that could be run in with other corridor stock. I'm not clear quite why this was useful but apparently it was.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Sausages2.jpg)
and I finally finished off the test build I did ages ago. It's not quite the same as the production ones - as observant LMS fans will notice the ventilators on the windows are slightly out for that period of LMS stock.
I should probably have gone around the edges of the vinyl sides with a red felt tip before the sides went on. Oh well too late now !
Still looks good, EtchedPixels!
Most impressive. :thumbsup:
George
Today I've been working on various (not yet finished) bits and also finishing off this one. Possibly the most obscure model I've ever done. It's the Barry Railway tool van. A unique 1890s built van to its own diagram.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/Barry79.jpg)
Very unusual, indeed. :thumbsup:
Holiday over. LMS 12 wheel sleeper first finished. This one is built around a test 3D printed core rather than just etched bits.
(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/StanierSleeper.jpg)
There's something about 12 wheel coaches.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 21, 2014, 11:48:59 PM
There's something about 12 wheel coaches.
I have never seen that before. Why 3 axles per bogie? A better ride?
Thanks!
Quote from: Chetcombe on April 22, 2014, 02:05:01 AM
I have never seen that before. Why 3 axles per bogie? A better ride?
Mostly to keep the axle loading down because the big coaches were heavy and many lines had quite restrictive axle loading limits. It was particularly common with sleeping cars and some of the dining vehicles. A few parcels/newspaper vans also had them.
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 22, 2014, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: Chetcombe on April 22, 2014, 02:05:01 AM
I have never seen that before. Why 3 axles per bogie? A better ride?
Mostly to keep the axle loading down because the big coaches were heavy and many lines had quite restrictive axle loading limits. It was particularly common with sleeping cars and some of the dining vehicles. A few parcels/newspaper vans also had them.
Alan
Were sleeper coaches noticeably heavier than ordinary coaches? Is that because they included extra water tanks?
Quote from: johnlambert on April 22, 2014, 01:34:48 PM
Were sleeper coaches noticeably heavier than ordinary coaches? Is that because they included extra water tanks?
Probably to accommodate all those heavy sleepers :sorrysign:
Quote from: johnlambert on April 22, 2014, 01:34:48 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 22, 2014, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: Chetcombe on April 22, 2014, 02:05:01 AM
I have never seen that before. Why 3 axles per bogie? A better ride?
Mostly to keep the axle loading down because the big coaches were heavy and many lines had quite restrictive axle loading limits. It was particularly common with sleeping cars and some of the dining vehicles. A few parcels/newspaper vans also had them.
Alan
Were sleeper coaches noticeably heavier than ordinary coaches? Is that because they included extra water tanks?
In the LMS case all 68 or 69ft coaches were twelve wheel. The GWR happily put some 70ft coaches on eight wheel bogies. Sleepers are usually heavier but it never occurred to me to wonder why !
Alan
I notice the title of this thread stipulates latest and completed, well here you go.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/scorpion_24v/RW%20stuff/2-Garratts.jpg)
The larger of the two is a 00 scale scratch build completed about 8 years ago, made from 2 Bachmann N Class locos and part of a garden umbrella (that the wife still doesn't know about). The smaller one is a Skytrex N gauge kit that I finished (apart from numbering) about 4 or 5 years ago.
I have many unfinished projects on the go, most of which will never be finished. In fact the only one I have managed to finish recently was the Brighton & Rottingdean electric thing and that's not really a railway.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/scorpion_24v/RW%20stuff/Other%20Things/DLLM006_zpsa58c9da6.jpg)
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 21, 2014, 11:48:59 PM
Holiday over. LMS 12 wheel sleeper first finished. This one is built around a test 3D printed core rather than just etched bits.
There's something about 12 wheel coaches
Hi Alan.
Where did you gent the transfers to do the "sleeping car" lettering ?
Best regards,
Joe
They are pre-printed sides.
Alan
Quote from: Vigo on April 24, 2014, 02:43:23 PM
In fact the only one I have managed to finish recently was the Brighton & Rottingdean electric thing and that's not really a railway.
It runs on rails, therefore it's a railway! :)
Nice model, btw.
Chris
Hello again.
Here is my second kit completed.
This time, it is a railcar from Etched Pixels. Really nice model.
Unfortunately it appears that I am not good at painting N scale rolling stock. :veryangry: It is a pity because it is a really nice model.
Here are the pictures.
(http://img101.xooimage.com/files/2/d/7/img_2212-46c54c4.jpg)
(http://img106.xooimage.com/files/0/4/9/img_2217-46c54d0.jpg)
(http://img106.xooimage.com/files/d/8/4/img_2220-46c54ed.jpg)
Have a nice week.
I am betting that the actual model looks ok, its just that photography shows up every glitch. Have one of these in my to do drawer as well.
What did you use for the glazing?
Jerry. Banned from modelling today (by Mrs H) due to possible sprained thumb so catching up on forum posts.
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on July 30, 2014, 08:48:22 AM
I am betting that the actual model looks ok, its just that photography shows up every glitch.
I would agree, close-up photography of N gauge models can be very cruel ;)
Take another pic from normal viewing distance,
ie, a couple of feet at least, and I bet it'll look just fine :thumbsup:
Paul
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on July 30, 2014, 08:48:22 AMWhat did you use for the glazing?
Jerry. Banned from modelling today (by Mrs H) due to possible sprained thumb so catching up on forum posts.
I used Micro Kristal Klear. It comes from the US. I bought it at Model Train Stuff, http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Microscale-MI-9-Micro-Kristal-Klear-p/msi-mi-9.htm (http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Microscale-MI-9-Micro-Kristal-Klear-p/msi-mi-9.htm).
Quote from: Sprintex on July 30, 2014, 09:07:07 AMTake another pic from normal viewing distance, ie, a couple of feet at least, and I bet it'll look just fine :thumbsup:
Paul
I'll try to post another picture in a couple of weeks when I come back from holidays.
Hi
Here's my most recently completed kit build.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/thumb_14587.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14587)
Built from a Stephen Harris kit.
Cheers
Paul
I agree that the modern cameras show every minor fault .I had the same thing when MSR took photos of my Railcar at Conwy show, by the way could the last picture show over fill from the window material rather than your painting, I like the warning panels and lights will have to paint the lights on mine not sure to do white or silver dots.
Bob
Quote from: RussellH on December 19, 2013, 06:30:00 PM
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Regards
Russ
Hi Guys
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14729.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14729)
Last one of the pair completed today. Same spec as 021. Worsley class 29 on a farish 33 chassis, narrowed cl20 frames with 3dprinted extended couplers & tpm ploughs, 3D printed fuel tank and spoked wheels (spoked etches by Ethedpix). Painted by MK1 (thanks Marc). Off to her new home with David.
Regards
Russ
A beauty! Very good painting.
That class 29 is a brilliant 'What if?' If BR hadn't ordered quite so many Type 2 diesels, and if the Paxman Ventura engine had been used for anything other than the class 29, they might well have lasted into the 1980s. BR must have been reasonably impressed by the Ventura: about the time the last Class 29s were being cut up, they were working on the prototype HST which had Valenta engines - basically an improved Ventura.
Cracking model, Russ :thumbsup:
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Regards
Russ
Hi Guys
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/thumb_14729.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14729)
Last one of the pair completed today. Same spec as 021. Worsley class 29 on a farish 33 chassis, narrowed cl20 frames with 3dprinted extended couplers & tpm ploughs, 3D printed fuel tank and spoked wheels (spoked etches by Ethedpix). Painted by MK1 (thanks Marc). Off to her new home with David.
Regards
Russ
Wow!
Can I have two in green please? (Plus two non powered dummies!?)
Scotty.
Quote from: d-a-n on February 24, 2014, 08:40:13 PM
Built my first kit, the Peco 10ft Butterley wagon.
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I had been running a POA wagon at the head of my 16t minerals (fitted and unfitted) train for the NEM pocket on the end to have a easi shunt there but it didn't look right. I also wanted to try out Dapol's NEM pocket conversion kit which had been bought for me for Christmas so I thought a £3 wagon would be the place to start. As it happened, one of the 16t MCV minerals I was weathering lost a coupling so buoyed by the success of this conversion, got stuck in and gave that an NEM. So I was left with a redundant Peco wagon, in the wrong colours with an Elsie at one end and an NEM at the other. It's part of the rake still but it's pretty crappy compared to the proper Farish one with decals and all!!
I don't think that looks crappy at all. Looks pretty good to me!
A few fox transfers and it'd look right as rain. An alternative would be to make a rake up of only peco kits, then there's nothing for the eye to compare it with. But as I say, looks good enough to me.
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Quote from: d-a-n on February 24, 2014, 08:40:13 PM
Built my first kit, the Peco 10ft Butterley wagon.
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I had been running a POA wagon at the head of my 16t minerals (fitted and unfitted) train for the NEM pocket on the end to have a easi shunt there but it didn't look right. I also wanted to try out Dapol's NEM pocket conversion kit which had been bought for me for Christmas so I thought a £3 wagon would be the place to start. As it happened, one of the 16t MCV minerals I was weathering lost a coupling so buoyed by the success of this conversion, got stuck in and gave that an NEM. So I was left with a redundant Peco wagon, in the wrong colours with an Elsie at one end and an NEM at the other. It's part of the rake still but it's pretty crappy compared to the proper Farish one with decals and all!!
I don't think that looks crappy at all. Looks pretty good to me!
A few fox transfers and it'd look right as rain. An alternative would be to make a rake up of only peco kits, then there's nothing for the eye to compare it with. But as I say, looks good enough to me.
Agreed - that looks like a nicely weathered, well (ab)used truck that has seen better days but has seen some hand repainting! If my trucks came out like that then I would be very happy!
One of the problems I find with making kits is that I am my worst enemy - when I look at a model from a very close up perspective while making it, I can see everywhere that I am not quite happy with. Then, every time I pick it up, I see those bits, and wish I had done it better. However, I tell myself that it looks great in amongst a long rake of similar models on a layout, and I try not to be so picky! :-[
Quote from: Paul B on August 12, 2014, 05:55:12 PM
One of the problems I find with making kits is that I am my worst enemy - when I look at a model from a very close up perspective while making it, I can see everywhere that I am not quite happy with. Then, every time I pick it up, I see those bits, and wish I had done it better. However, I tell myself that it looks great in amongst a long rake of similar models on a layout, and I try not to be so picky! :-[
Hi
I am much the same whilst building but find that once it is finished and put away in the stock drawer for a while the next time I get it out I have forgotten all the issues.
Cheers
Paul
Thanks for the kind comments about the Butterley wagon. I'm going to try my hand at some peco vans and spray them next time I'm kit building, shame Peco don't make the HAA MGR hoppers as a kit. I used to paint Warhammer figurines to quite a high standard in the 90s, I guess I feel I'm a bit out practice and expect awesome results out of the box with brush only!
I am quite pleased with this brush-only weathering. More of this soon.
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(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3918/15356467891_548e9f5d6c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/poZUTM)
So my old 3 pole Grafar 25 (first n gauge engine I ever got, second hand...) had one of the little dangly bits broken off the body. So I got a body courtesy of Etched Pixels and started gently trying to lighten up the weathering a bit. So obviously I then ended up stripping it completely for a repaint!
Anyhoo, here's 25 908, poised ready to haul some nuclear flasks...
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on September 26, 2014, 02:40:37 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3918/15356467891_548e9f5d6c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/poZUTM)
So my old 3 pole Grafar 25 (first n gauge engine I ever got, second hand...) had one of the little dangly bits broken off the body. So I got a body courtesy of Etched Pixels and started gently trying to lighten up the weathering a bit. So obviously I then ended up stripping it completely for a repaint!
Anyhoo, here's 25 908, poised ready to haul some nuclear flasks...
I see elements of Trigger sneaking in here - "I've had the same broom for 25 years..." ;)
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
I bought a 'Broom for Life'. for £25, ooh, must be 10 years ago.
Only had two new heads and a replacement handle.
That's what I call value for money! :dunce:
Dave G :wave:
No split gears on this bad boy... on account of them being brass...
wonder if I can do a direct drop in of a 5 pole armyture... :hmmm:
I have finally finished the 6 POA wagons 'Russell H' supplied to me as 3D prints with etched ladders. They go on the Peco 15 foot steel chassis and I'm very happy with them! He keeps threatening to produce the Pedestal suspension/hand brake wheel variety but it's not surfaced yet. I'll need a couple of these too to finish the rake.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/23/thumb_26286.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=26286)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/23/thumb_26285.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=26285)
As you can see below, there are currently two different body styles available.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/23/thumb_26291.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=26291)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/23/thumb_26292.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=26292)
After about 6 years of searching, I managed to find one - in Australia :goggleeyes:
A 2mm scale Class 76 (EM1). Bloody awful kit to build but worth the effort in the end.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/scorpion_24v/RW%20stuff/Ideas%20for%20Woodhead/20150718_002_zpsacxd7kyq.jpg)
I decided against using the Kato chassis that was recommended simply because I couldn't justify another 96 quid for something that would need to be butchered to fit. This EM1 uses a simple Tomytec chassis well disguised by the massive bogie castings, hence it runs around Hadfield very well.
:thumbsup: Well worth the wait.
Always had a liking for the class 76/77s. :heart2:
Nice one, Vigo :thumbsup:
Absolutely exquisite. Very much of 'time and place' ... nice work Sir!
Very nice indeed, a beautifully made kit.
As an aside I often wonder if a Woodhead Electric Class 76 would warrant a crowdfunding proposal, it carried several liveries, lasted about 30 years in traffic. In the 60s would have been seen alongside steam and early diesels plus also (I believe) hauled passenger trains al well as freight...
Roy
Four Peco 16 tonners and a couple of tanks.
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Thanks for looking
I made a very bad attempt at a BR crew bus from Dornplas. Instructions were pretty pap, couldn't find any pics until the end when I searched for crew "bus" not van (dooh). Looks OK though I couldn't warrant proper glazing liquid for one kit so I used Deluxe rocket card glue with some success...
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu17/RSTA/IMAG1543.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/RSTA/media/IMAG1543.jpg.html)
...some room for improvement, might try the kit again. The original is pretty varied anyway.