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#51
Forum Ideas and Problems. / Advice required please
Last post by Firstone18 - Yesterday at 08:37:08 AM
I have recently posted twice on the general section but neither post has appeared in the recently added so members will not have seen them.
Can one of the mods please advise why this is?
TIA
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#52
N Gauge Discussion / Re: Why Farish doesn't re-rele...
Last post by Roy L S - Yesterday at 08:20:59 AM
Quote from: GlenEglise on October 27, 2026, 11:15:13 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 25, 2025, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: Roy L S on April 25, 2025, 08:07:15 AM
Quote from: GlenEglise on April 24, 2025, 10:36:59 PMI don't mind if it is Farish or Dapol or anyone else, but will we ever see a 6MT Clan produced?

GE

A small class of 10 locos, essentially a Brit with a smaller boiler and 6P power rating, were anyone to make one it would be Dapol, but I suspect not.

Roy

And mainly only seen north of Carlisle. OK, EFE did the 5 x class 41's but they've been on all kinds of wish lists for years and years

Err, I don't think so, they went all over and were misused as substitutes for Britannia's hence reducing their reputation as poor performers. They weren't meant to substitute for Britannia's.

GE

The "Clan" was trialled elsewhere but operationally largely confined to the North West of England and Scotland - places like the West Coast Main Line north of Carlisle and "Port Road" to Stranraer, but did also get as far South as Crewe and to places like Liverpool. That said, it was designed with the lighter loadings of certain Scottish lines in mind. The loco were predominately based at Polmadie (Glasgow) and Carlisle Kingmoor.

A second "improved" batch that never got built would have been destined for the Southern but that is another story.

My understanding is that the locos were popular enough with regular crews familiar with them and after mods to the blastpipe arrangement they could steam well, the real issue was that when on trials elsewhere there was an expectation that they would have the "punch" of a Brit which with their lower 6P 5F power classification was not realistic.

As to viability as a model, that would only ever "hang off" the back of a Britannia as the chassis and running gear were all but the same (just I think smaller cylinders). The fact that Dapol have produced a Brit for many years but never tooled the smaller "Clan" body/boiler as an alternative suggests to me that they did not see a return on the tooling cost. Even in OO as far as I am aware (happy to be corrected) Hornby only ever did one production run of their "Clan".

Roy
#53
N Gauge Discussion / Re: Why Farish doesn't re-rele...
Last post by GlenEglise - October 27, 2026, 11:15:13 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 25, 2025, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: Roy L S on April 25, 2025, 08:07:15 AM
Quote from: GlenEglise on April 24, 2025, 10:36:59 PMI don't mind if it is Farish or Dapol or anyone else, but will we ever see a 6MT Clan produced?

GE

A small class of 10 locos, essentially a Brit with a smaller boiler and 6P power rating, were anyone to make one it would be Dapol, but I suspect not.

Roy

And mainly only seen north of Carlisle. OK, EFE did the 5 x class 41's but they've been on all kinds of wish lists for years and years

Err, I don't think so, they went all over and were misused as substitutes for Britannia's hence reducing their reputation as poor performers. They weren't meant to substitute for Britannia's.

GE
#54
N Gauge Discussion / Re: Why Farish doesn't re-rele...
Last post by GlenEglise - October 27, 2026, 11:12:57 PM
Quote from: Roy L S on April 25, 2025, 08:07:15 AM
Quote from: GlenEglise on April 24, 2025, 10:36:59 PMI don't mind if it is Farish or Dapol or anyone else, but will we ever see a 6MT Clan produced?

GE

A small class of 10 locos, essentially a Brit with a smaller boiler and 6P power rating, were anyone to make one it would be Dapol, but I suspect not.

Roy

Hmm a small class of ten, like the Baby Deltics?

You are having a laugh right?

GE
#55
Notices / Re: Forum Updates and PHP Vuln...
Last post by Newportnobby - October 27, 2026, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Greygreaser on October 27, 2026, 07:28:05 PMCan't load a picture "it" says 'your session has timed out while posting' - but I wasn't posting? Just trying to load the picture as normal.

Seems you're not alone in that. Hopefully it's being looked into.
#56
Notices / Re: Forum Updates and PHP Vuln...
Last post by Greygreaser - October 27, 2026, 07:28:05 PM
Can't load a picture "it" says 'your session has timed out while posting' - but I wasn't posting? Just trying to load the picture as normal.
#57
General Discussion / Re: what are you listening to ...
Last post by Moonglum - October 27, 2026, 05:43:30 PM
Martin @port perran ! I saw Wild Turkey in '73 at The Hippodrome, Golder's Green. It was recorded by the BBC. They were OK as I recall.

Tim
#58
General Discussion / Re: what are you listening to ...
Last post by Newportnobby - October 27, 2026, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: port perran on October 27, 2026, 04:56:28 PMI've just had a quick listen to the first two tracks on Tony Iommi's From the Dark @Tonye .
Definitely not my cup of tea by a pretty long stretch  :D

 :o                                :D
#59
General Discussion / Re: what are you listening to ...
Last post by port perran - October 27, 2026, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: Moonglum on October 27, 2026, 04:30:42 PMBlack Sabbath, I always thought that there was a bit more to them than meets the eye/ear. I saw them in March 1973 at the Rainbow Theatre (North London) and sat 3 rows from the stage. The tour was in support of "Vol. 4." and parts of the concert can be heard on "Alive at Last". I think it all went to pot after "Sabotage" and I moved on although I do have "13" - no Bill Ward on drums - more is the pity.

Sad about Ozzy of course but I did not follow his solo career and still consider his best work to be on the very early BS albums.

Not sure I could take a whole Tony Iommi album now @Tonye !

Tim
I saw Black Sabbath in Bristol with some mates, who dragged me along, in probably 1972.
BS were never my thing at all but I recall that Glen Cornick's Wild Turkey, who were the support act, were pretty good (at the time).

I've just had a quick listen to the first two tracks on Tony Iommi's From the Dark @Tonye .
Definitely not my cup of tea by a pretty long stretch  :D
#60
General Discussion / Re: what are you listening to ...
Last post by Moonglum - October 27, 2026, 04:30:42 PM
Black Sabbath, I always thought that there was a bit more to them than meets the eye/ear. I saw them in March 1973 at the Rainbow Theatre (North London) and sat 3 rows from the stage. The tour was in support of "Vol. 4." and parts of the concert can be heard on "Alive at Last". I think it all went to pot after "Sabotage" and I moved on although I do have "13" - no Bill Ward on drums - more is the pity.

Sad about Ozzy of course but I did not follow his solo career and still consider his best work to be on the very early BS albums.

Not sure I could take a whole Tony Iommi album now @Tonye !

Tim 
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