As previously stated £100 is top end for a used loco. You don't say if you're using DC but could the loco be DCC fitted as, to get such a loco moving, it takes a lot of throttle 

Thanks for the replies. My big issue is the amount of power it needs to just move - it needs about 45% to very slowly move.

Are you running dc or DCC?

I once won an 08 on ebay, listed as a "slow runner". It was indeed a slow runner, but only because it had been converted to DCC and programmed to run correctly - even on dc.

Not everything runs like a scalded cat.

I have 2 class 22s and they both run very slow when first turned on But do get a bit faster once run ,But I think they do have  low gearing so they  run at more prototypical speed ,after all they were NOT express locos .
Bob

The only N gauge rtr concrete sleeper points I can think of are by Minitrix in their code 60 track range.  Even Kato Unitrack's concrete sleeper track has wooden sleepers for the points.

@HD why not use Electrofrog points? Better reliability especially if you do any shunting with short wheelbase locos on DC where you don't have things like DCC stay-alive available.  They look better too in my opinion They're no more difficult to use than Insulfrog.  I've used the code 55 track and Electrofrogs since the mid 90s.

For clarification, IIRC they do concrete sleeper points in OO, and its been so long since I have bought any, I thought they might have copied that practice in N.

Peco don't do any N Gauge points with concrete sleepers.

Regards,

John P

Quote from: HD on November 13, 2025, 02:29:20 PMPeco only seem to provide concrete sleepered points in electrofrog mode (Why?)

When concrete sleepers were first used, in the 1960s, the sleepers were just a standard track size, so all points were made with (longer) wooden sleepers. That has only changed quite recently (others with more knowledge on the subject will tell you exactly when) and so Peco only do a few points in concrete sleeper style.

HTH
Bob

Sorry to wander a little way off topic but just to say that I'm in the first initial stages of beginning to lay Peco track for a relatively modern image DC analogue layout using isolating points. Peco only seem to provide concrete sleepered points in electrofrog mode (Why?) so I'm pleasantly surprised at the result of carefully painting with a discontinued Crown emulsion paint shade of "Dark Cream" of which, entirely fortuitously, I found a small tester tub forgotten in the shed. Presumably there are close current shades by proprietary paint manufacturers which would fit the bill, at less cost than Railtech "Concrete". (My old tub of Dark Cream is a closer match to Peco's concrete sleepers.)
It all takes time but recently retired (and thus recently new to railways modelling - this my first attempt) time is now in good supply.       

Some models are geared slower but 45% sounds like it needs a service.   Without comparing it like for like with another Dapol 22 it's difficult to tell.  Can you measure the current draw? (run on DC with a multimeter on Amps in series with the track feed).   Does it get warm to the touch when running?
Lubing the gears will only get you so far, it may be other bearings which need lube, it may need the motor commutator cleaning and/or brushes cleaned or replaced (depends on the motor used as to whether or not that's even possible). 

For £100 I'd expect it to be as new.  Was it all nicely boxed with blurb, or does it look well used, wheels dirty or worn, fluff in the bogies etc.? I'd be wary of second hand DC locos priced that high unless it's something very rare and have confidence any minor issues can be fixed.