I don't really want to buy any more locomotives, the cost of them just put me off. That being said, i would throw my weight to support the other guys here saying that a 4-6-0 from the southern is well needed. A mixed traffic loco like the S15 perhaps? They did get around a lot on the Britains rail network.

Quote from: Dorsetmike on <strong>Today</strong> at 02:11:56 PMto quote StevenB

"There are big passenger locos for the LNER (several!), LMS and SR so I still think it would sell even if in real life it was route restricted. If nothing else, the inside/outside bearing bogie makes it looks somewhat different to any other GWR 4-6-0."

The only SR 4-6-0s are the Langley and BHE white metal kits, the only "big" SR passenger locos available in N gauge are the Bullied  4-6-2s which did not appear until the 1940s, the only "express passenger" loco prior to 1940 modeled in N is the Schools 4-4-0.
At grouping the SR got the 3 classes of 4-6-0 by Urie H15, N15 & S15 plus a few remaining Drummonds, Maunsell continued some of the Urie classes with a few modifications and introduced the Nelson in 1926.
The 3 classes of Urie 4-6-0s were almost identical except for driving wheel diameter, so all 3 classes could use the same basic body and a basic chassis available with 5'7", 6'0" or 6'7" wheels spaced correctly for the class; The same chassis  could probably suit Maunsell versions of the 3 classes, a few minor alterations to body e.g. cabs (mainly roof) 
Having played mix 'n match and hack with the Langley and BHE kits over the years if I can do it why can't a manufacturer with vastly more facilities?

Please note--Gosport Railworks ( JimSan ) offer 3d printed bodies for several Southern 4-6-0's: although ive yet to do any.

to quote StevenB

"There are big passenger locos for the LNER (several!), LMS and SR so I still think it would sell even if in real life it was route restricted. If nothing else, the inside/outside bearing bogie makes it looks somewhat different to any other GWR 4-6-0."

The only SR 4-6-0s are the Langley and BHE white metal kits, the only "big" SR passenger locos available in N gauge are the Bullied  4-6-2s which did not appear until the 1940s, the only "express passenger" loco prior to 1940 modeled in N is the Schools 4-4-0.
At grouping the SR got the 3 classes of 4-6-0 by Urie H15, N15 & S15 plus a few remaining Drummonds, Maunsell continued some of the Urie classes with a few modifications and introduced the Nelson in 1926.
The 3 classes of Urie 4-6-0s were almost identical except for driving wheel diameter, so all 3 classes could use the same basic body and a basic chassis available with 5'7", 6'0" or 6'7" wheels spaced correctly for the class; The same chassis  could probably suit Maunsell versions of the 3 classes, a few minor alterations to body e.g. cabs (mainly roof) 
Having played mix 'n match and hack with the Langley and BHE kits over the years if I can do it why can't a manufacturer with vastly more facilities?

Quote from: Steven B on <strong>Today</strong> at 09:24:32 AM

Quote from: Suffolk Rob on November 04, 2026, 12:43:11 PMLittle surprised to see another 2 150s, been a fair few farish DMUs in bargin bins for a while now.

Maybe, but now Central and Great Western modellers get a chance to buy one.

It's an interesting problem of privatisation. A green, blue or blue/grey DMU doesn't look out of place anywhere (particularly if you can't read the destination boards!). A Transport for Wales unit in Birmingham on the otherhand looks odd.

I'd happy have another class 158 (of which there are plenty left), but it'd have to be in West Yorkshire red and cream rather than Scotrail which leaves the stock on the shelves.

Transport for Wales runs through Birmingham New Street to Birmingham International currently with class 158's but occasionally class 150 or class 153 stock.

Chris

Was highly surprised that Sonic went for the A5 (though they had done an OO), would have thought the N2 an ideal one for them or someone similar to tackle. Any one who wants one will also want Quad or Quint sets- thats a big investment on some ones part.

Wonder if we will see a Blue A2 in N gauge -  as part of the CC or othewrwise.

Quote from: Roy L S on <strong>Yesterday</strong> at 08:12:02 PM

Quote from: Bigmac on <strong>Yesterday</strong> at 06:15:48 PMRe the C Class: Maybe there was a tie up between Bachman and the Bluebell, sponsorship perhaps, otherwise it was a strange choice for n gauge. Was it a good seller ?

The C Class was part of their OO range, I don't think one needs to look any further than that for the reason it then became part of the Farish range along with the SECR "Birdcage" coaches. The loco is exquisite and included features never seen in a British outline 0-6-0 tender loco up to that point such as Next 18 socket and speaker. The ones in the intricate SE&CR livery sold out pretty quickly and there is nothing to suggest the loco was in anything but a success, with the likes of me (with no interest in matters "Southern") buying one just because it is such a lovely model, mine now being fitted with a sound chip.

As @thebrighton rightly points out, the fact there has recently been a second run including a "Collectors club" special and this time including a sound fitted option points to the first batch being popular otherwise they wouldn't have done it.

Roy

I'm the proud owner of 3 x C class locos, 2 of which are in the SECR livery. Farish chimed in with their lovely 'birdcage' stock and Dapol had their exquisite little 'Terrier' in SECR and that's probably the most popular in that range. Rapido then added a lovely range of SECR wagons.
However, back on the 4-6-0 subject, I would love to see a SR loco as they were oft seen at Oxford so an S15, 'King Arthur' or 'Lord Nelson' would be a very nice addition to my Bulleids, M7, Schools and N class

Quote from: tunneroner61 on <strong>Yesterday</strong> at 11:52:11 PMPlease corect me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that Dapol inherited the cardan shaft design concept from Ixion when Dapol took on the Manor.

Can't recall exact dates for all, but Dapol had certainly released at least the Q1, 9F (both around 2007/8 ish), Britania (2009) and possibly also the LNER B17 & B1 with the same drive layout, prior to the Ixion Manor being produced in early 2010 (passing to Dapol late 2011)...

It was noted at the time the similarities in the set-up, and there was some debate who was primarily responsible for the design of the Manor mechanism.
Dapol certainly did it first but did Ixion copy Dapol? did Dapol impose their design on Ixion? or did they independently arrive at the same solution?

Quote from: tunneroner61 on <strong>Yesterday</strong> at 11:52:11 PMPlease corect me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that Dapol inherited the cardan shaft design concept from Ixion when Dapol took on the Manor. I have an Ixion Manor and for smoothness and quietness it is far far better than the Dapol tender locos I have. It goes round 9" radius curves too. As has been pointed out previously I do suspect Dapol 'cost engineered' the whole power train design concept downwards.

It is a while back now but I don't think that is how it came about. I recall that the first Dapol loco to use the cardan shaft arrangement (and their first tender loco) was the Q1 released in 2007.

The Ixion Manor came along later in around 2010 and while it was manufactured for Ixion via Dapol, the design was the work of well respected Australian N modeller Phil Badger rather than anyone at Dapol. 1,200 Ixion Manors were produced in four liveries, I still have my BR black "Hook Norton Manor" to this day.

When Ixion exited from N Gauge following the Manor, Dapol did though take over the tooling and produce the loco themselves, albeit with a different DCC ready tender.

Roy

Quote from: Suffolk Rob on November 04, 2026, 12:43:11 PMLittle surprised to see another 2 150s, been a fair few farish DMUs in bargin bins for a while now.

Maybe, but now Central and Great Western modellers get a chance to buy one.

It's an interesting problem of privatisation. A green, blue or blue/grey DMU doesn't look out of place anywhere (particularly if you can't read the destination boards!). A Transport for Wales unit in Birmingham on the otherhand looks odd.

I'd happy have another class 158 (of which there are plenty left), but it'd have to be in West Yorkshire red and cream rather than Scotrail which leaves the stock on the shelves.

Stepping away from the King and other 4-6-0s, it's interesting to look at the smaller tender engines.

The C Class is an exceptional little loco, and handily fills the 0-6-0 tender loco shaped gap in the SR fleet.

LMS has the Fowler, LNER the J39 leaving GWR fans to hunt for long discontinued Peco 2251s if they want an 0-6-0 tender loco.

I feel it's the 4-4-0s that are noticeable by their absence. With the loss of the Union Mill Dukedog, I think there's only the Dapol Schools.