Stanier Suburbans from Dapol

[Bob G]

... you can't have everything!

Doesn't stop you trying, though

I don't have anything Scottish.... apart from two Claytons! And arguably Drummond's M7 tank has Scottish ancestry.

[Hailstone]

Happy days - I'm up for at least 4 maybe six, a 4 coach set and a 2 coach push pull set

Regards,

Alex

[Dalek]

Is there someone from Dapol on this thread ?

Please email us this information and also what we showed an interest in 

Craig

[Newportnobby]

Like Craig, I did register interest but can't recall which I required. There is no tracking of 'expression of interest' unlike an e mail so only Dapol know what I wanted
Unlike the Gresley buffet coach and full brakes, I did post in that thread what I was interested in.
I appreciate it's a lot of work to contact eejits like me but it would help me enormously. Just for the record I reckon it's 1 x 2P-010-404 and 2 x 2P-010-204

[Bob G]

Theses are scans from the Railway Magazine from August 2020.


















I'm confused as to whether a 3-car push pull set would have had two composite coaches, Mick.
On the southern they had two car pull-push sets which were supplemented at peak periods by an all second compartment coach. I would have expected that configuration on the Midland too. The spare would have been piped underneath like the composite, to allow the driver in the driving brake second to still have control of his loco. The non-corridor second would be next to the loco.

I don't specifically know why Dapol labelled one of the composite coaches as push-pull but I suspect it is just the number applied. You could probably just get a second class coach 2P-010-007 or 008 to make a three car rake.

Best
Bob

[Newportnobby]

Good to see a pic of 41222 on the 'Newportnobby'

[PLD]

I'm confused as to whether a 3-car push pull set would have had two composite coaches, Mick.
On the southern they had two car pull-push sets which were supplemented at peak periods by an all second compartment coach. I would have expected that configuration on the Midland too. The spare would have been piped underneath like the composite, to allow the driver in the driving brake second to still have control of his loco. The non-corridor second would be next to the loco.

I don't specifically know why Dapol labelled one of the composite coaches as push-pull but I suspect it is just the number applied. You could probably just get a second class coach 2P-010-007 or 008 to make a three car rake.

Both questions answered earlier in the thread...
DBT-C-C formation certainly happened (the "Welsh Dragon" - the only named Push-Pull service - was this formation). DBT-C-T was most common for a 3-coach set, however Dapol haven't included a fitted Third in this first round...

The ones labelled as "Push-Pull Composites" are numbered as fitted vehicles (the others are non-fitted so couldn't be used in Push-Pull mode) The only visible difference was an extra air Cylinder underneath and a couple of extra hoses on the ends...

[Bob G]

The ones labelled as "Push-Pull Composites" are numbered as fitted vehicles (the others are non-fitted so couldn't be used in Push-Pull mode) The only visible difference was an extra air Cylinder underneath and a couple of extra hoses on the ends...

So if @Newportnobby Mick wasn't worried about the number, or looking underneath the chassis for (non-existent) pipes, then I guess he could just buy an unfitted third (second in maroon livery).

Given Dapol are not retooling the roof for the refurbished Gresley buffet, I doubt they are making the chassis any different for the push-pull variants (but let's see, nothing's been said so far).

Bob G

[Newportnobby]

The ones labelled as "Push-Pull Composites" are numbered as fitted vehicles (the others are non-fitted so couldn't be used in Push-Pull mode) The only visible difference was an extra air Cylinder underneath and a couple of extra hoses on the ends...

So if @Newportnobby Mick wasn't worried about the number, or looking underneath the chassis for (non-existent) pipes, then I guess he could just buy an unfitted third (second in maroon livery).

It's a funny thing, that. When they're on the tracks you can't see underneath

[PLD]

So if @Newportnobby Mick wasn't worried about the number, or looking underneath the chassis for (non-existent) pipes, then I guess he could just buy an unfitted third (second in maroon livery).

For a 3-car set currently a choice of 2 Comps with the same number or include a 3rd numbered as a non-fitted example. Neither quite right if you don't want to go to the trouble of renumbering...

[Dalek]

Like Craig, I did register interest but can't recall which I required. There is no tracking of 'expression of interest' unlike an e mail so only Dapol know what I wanted

Same here, i like to have an email i can set a reminder to or keep etc etc

Craig

[Crepello]

Good to see on the Dapol website that these have gone for tooling.

[Stevie DC]

Good to see on the Dapol website that these have gone for tooling.

Late to the party here. I'm very happy that these are going to get produced too! 

[madchadbrad]

Apart from the numbering, are there any other differences between the push-pull versions of Dapol's Ivatt 2MT tank locos and the non-push-pull versions?

[Roy L S]

Apart from the numbering, are there any other differences between the push-pull versions of Dapol's Ivatt 2MT tank locos and the non-push-pull versions?

Yes, the very prominent push-pull equipment by the smokebox, unlike the GW locos which had mechanical linkages, LMS ones had a vacuum driven system.