Dapol announcement looking for expressions of interest in Gresley D113/245

[Roy L S]

Slightly surprised that the BG is only at 73% but then I guess we don't know how many they need to produce v's the Buffet.

I am not going to add to my orders for either, even noting that the buffet is now also available in BR Maroon (I have two of the existing ones in that livery that correctly represent the steam era) for some obscure "Rule 1"  reason it is the blue-grey one I am after just because it was such a survivor...

[Bob G]

Was the refurbished Buffet a combination brake/buffet?

Nope. They just did away with a lot of window glass behind the counter so they could do more British Rail sandwiches and toasties, and stack stuff in cupboards along the back of the buffet bar. More like a typical BR Mk 1 buffet layout. The roof vents were added to and improved too. One side (the public side of the coach) didn't change apart from white out of the last two windows. I would imagine that Dapol would reuse the internal layout moulding, because I don't think the seating changed much at all.

[Newportnobby]

Thanks. It's just that in the pic by robertcwp in your reply #24 the buffet is, unusually, the last coach in the train and looks somewhat like a brake. Having said that, the train could well have been split at Reading making it the last coach in the rake

[Bob G]

I've just been chatting with Adam at Dapol @Adam1701D and the buffet roofs are remaining as per the original moulding. The modified buffet roofs differ a little between buffet cars but basically there were larger vents fitted over the passenger seating area and additional vents added to the counter end of the buffet car.

I don't think this is going to stop anyone from getting a model though.

When I did my modification to the original model in 2011 I simply added some plasticard shapes that looked a bit like vents, and brush painted the roof.

You can see what is involved in the entire modification process in this old RM article from 2005.

HTH

Bob

[madchadbrad]

I have expressed interest in one of each livery for both the full brake and the buffet. I'm going to be going bankrupt if they all come out at once!

[Roy L S]

I've just been chatting with Adam at Dapol @Adam1701D and the buffet roofs are remaining as per the original moulding. The modified buffet roofs differ a little between buffet cars but basically there were larger vents fitted over the passenger seating area and additional vents added to the counter end of the buffet car.

I don't think this is going to stop anyone from getting a model though.

When I did my modification to the original model in 2011 I simply added some plasticard shapes that looked a bit like vents, and brush painted the roof.

You can see what is involved in the entire modification process in this old RM article from 2005.

HTH

Bob

Quite a significant difference in the roof vent layout on the modified coaches and while I do understand why, for what is perceived as a model that is a bit "niche" with a limited market, the cost of tooling a new roof isn't considered viable, it is still a bit of a shame. However it won't put me off buying one and like you say @Bob G probably won't the vast majority of people either.

Roy