Bachmann New Tooling Announcement 31st July

Roy L S · July 31, 2025, 11:44:09 AM

Quote from: njee20 on July 31, 2025, 11:31:41 AMI'll get a last guess in and say retooled 170. Built at Derby. Already 'in the family'.

Maybe, but the 170, utilitarian though it may be, is hardly something iconic in the context of 200 years of railways.

I am ging to go for something iconic but probably equally unlikely - a new tool A4!

Not long now and we will know, hopefully it hasn't been a lot of froth over what turns out to be another "new tool" Scenecraft toilet block modelled on one that was at Birmingham Curzon Street in 1849!

Roy

Suffolk Rob · July 31, 2025, 12:17:05 PM

So did anyone guess right?

Newportnobby · July 31, 2025, 12:18:19 PM

I didn't, and there'll be no frothing from me.
Maybe the Autumn announcements on 6th August at 09.30hrs...................

Shropshire Lad · July 31, 2025, 12:23:35 PM

Quote from: Suffolk Rob on July 31, 2025, 12:17:05 PMSo did anyone guess right?

I went for random wagon, Is that close enough

Suffolk Rob · July 31, 2025, 12:25:53 PM

Closer than me

Platy767 · July 31, 2025, 12:30:35 PM

NER P7 Coal Hoppers - noice!

A little expensive for a single though. I thought that might have been for a 3 pack!

Mark

Newportnobby · July 31, 2025, 12:30:54 PM

Oh well, at least there'll be a P.O. wagon for @madchadbrad

Suffolk Rob · July 31, 2025, 12:33:31 PM

It does look a nice little wagon which I guess will be around the £25-6 mark with the bigger retailers

Would be interested if anyone with more knowledge could share more about them, particularly how far they travelled or whether you might see a singleton in a branch goods. That might persuade me to look at one when they arrive.

Am I right that Accurascale did it in OO. That would be interesting as it would demonstrate that they are not just focusing on things they can do in a larger scale too.

Roy L S · July 31, 2025, 12:37:05 PM

I wasn't remotely close and would not have guess the NER hopper in a million years.

Of no use on my GC layout but they look lovely models, I will probably buy a couple in the colourful NCB and sugar corporation liveries just because of that.

I think the biggest issue is a lack of any currently available RTR locos that are really suitable to pull them, in the Farish range, a further batch of the J39s has been due for a fair while now with no news, but apart from that really only the B1 and WD Austerity would be suitable I would think.

Of course the Union Mills J26 would have been spot on and it does occur to me that amongst the DJM models announced was a Q6 0-8-0 and I think a CAD was shown - could we maybe see an EFE model of that I wonder

Yeah, OK I know, dream on...

Roy

Bob G · July 31, 2025, 12:39:47 PM

Nothing for me here.

But I'm intrigued by the hints of the next model (probably in OO)... "western" and "blue" ...with a video at the start of a class 50 (surely not) and a Hymek and Warship to end.

Well the Heljan Hymek is an old model now, the new Bachmann class 43 Warship has the ideal chassis for a new class 42, to get in ahead of the one that is still being designed by Heljan/Rails of Sheffield, but my money will be on a new OO Western. Yes please!

OOoooh it's lovely to be able to froth in two scales!

Roy L S · July 31, 2025, 12:39:59 PM

Quote from: Platy767 on July 31, 2025, 12:30:35 PMNER P7 Coal Hoppers - noice!

A little expensive for a single though. I thought that might have been for a 3 pack!

Mark

Unlikely, that would work out at less than £10 each for what is a highly detailed wagon which wouldn't be remotely viable. On the plus side allowing for the usual 15% discount it should be possible to pick them up for a shade over £25.

Roy

Newportnobby · July 31, 2025, 12:45:25 PM

Quote from: Bob G on July 31, 2025, 12:39:47 PMNothing for me here.

But I'm intrigued by the hints of the next model (probably in OO)... "western" and "blue" ...with a video at the start of a class 50 (surely not) and a Hymek and Warship to end.

Well the Heljan Hymek is an old model now, the new Bachmann class 43 Warship has the ideal chassis for a new class 42, to get in ahead of the one that is still being designed by Heljan/Rails of Sheffield, but my money will be on a new OO Western. Yes please!

OOoooh it's lovely to be able to froth in two scales!

Get thee hence, Satan

Platy767 · July 31, 2025, 12:48:48 PM

I'm being flippant. I built my first hopper for about 2.50GB courtesy of the 2mm Scale Association and another from BH Enterprises for not much more. Long time ago and quite a bit of work with assembly, painting, lettering, wheels and couplers.
Mark

emjaybee · July 31, 2025, 12:57:47 PM

Steven B · July 31, 2025, 12:58:03 PM

Operating wise, these wagons would have been used much like any other coal wagon. Small stations might only get one or two, whilst bigger coal users like gas works would receive many more. The big point to note is that these wagons are hoppers - you need under track coal drops to unload them. These were generally limited to the NR region. Some still exist today, albeit not in use. Halifax has some in quite poor condition whilst at Goathland you'll find them preserved next to covered lime drops.

Quote from: Roy L S on July 31, 2025, 12:37:05 PMI think the biggest issue is a lack of any currently available RTR locos that are really suitable to pull them, in the Farish range, a further batch of the J39s has been due for a fair while now with no news, but apart from that really only the B1 and WD Austerity would be suitable I would think.

Depending on era you could use the Farish class 14 or EFE Austerity.
https://flic.kr/p/2oi7bg9

For pre-nationalisation there's the option of the Sonic/Rails J50.