Royal Train Loco Insignia

GlenEglise · June 30, 2025, 08:28:31 PM

The current Royal Train recently renewed the franchise with DB for traction etc.

Both Class 67 locomotives have been given new insignia in relation to King Charles III. In addition Queen's Messenger has been renamed King's Messenger.

Is anyone aware of a source of new etches/Decals for application to the Dapol Class 67 locos?

I have tried searching buut got nowhere, tried Railtec and Dapol also but no luck.

Any help?

GE

njee20 · June 30, 2025, 09:01:21 PM

Have they actually been done? I can only find one article relating to the fact they were going to be repainted, but not a single suggestion they actually have been.

crewearpley40 · June 30, 2025, 09:26:07 PM

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/fleet/2025/02/10/db-cargo-uk-receives-new-royal-train-warrant-class-67s-to-be-repainted

The position i understand

Currently Toton locos
https://www.dbcargo.com/rail-de-en/logistics-news/db-cargo-uk-wins-royal-assignment-13300082

https://www.dbcargo.com/rail-de-en/logistics-news/locomotive-in-honour-of-the-king-10907544

GlenEglise · June 30, 2025, 10:14:42 PM

Quote from: njee20 on June 30, 2025, 09:01:21 PMHave they actually been done? I can only find one article relating to the fact they were going to be repainted, but not a single suggestion they actually have been.

https://www.royaltrain.co.uk/

It would appear so!

njee20 · June 30, 2025, 10:36:40 PM

Literally in the news today that Charles supports decommissioning it. Not sure you'll get many people falling over themselves to do new etches! Presumably one has been renamed "King's Messenger" too?

Quote from: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2025, 09:26:07 PMhttps://www.railmagazine.com/news/fleet/2025/02/10/db-cargo-uk-receives-new-royal-train-warrant-class-67s-to-be-repainted

The position i understand

Currently Toton locos
https://www.dbcargo.com/rail-de-en/logistics-news/db-cargo-uk-wins-royal-assignment-13300082

https://www.dbcargo.com/rail-de-en/logistics-news/locomotive-in-honour-of-the-king-10907544

Yes, Chris, we all have Google! The 66 is nothing to do with the royal train FWIW.

GlenEglise · June 30, 2025, 10:38:52 PM

Quote from: njee20 on June 30, 2025, 10:36:40 PMLiterally in the news today that Charles supports decommissioning it. Not sure you'll get many people falling over themselves to do new etches! Presumably one has been renamed "King's Messenger" too?

Quote from: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2025, 09:26:07 PMhttps://www.railmagazine.com/news/fleet/2025/02/10/db-cargo-uk-receives-new-royal-train-warrant-class-67s-to-be-repainted

The position i understand

Currently Toton locos
https://www.dbcargo.com/rail-de-en/logistics-news/db-cargo-uk-wins-royal-assignment-13300082

https://www.dbcargo.com/rail-de-en/logistics-news/locomotive-in-honour-of-the-king-10907544

Yes, Chris, we all have Google! The 66 is nothing to do with the royal train FWIW.

Well, it is a reality whether there is a wish to decommision it or not wherever that story came from?

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1101170995390069&set=pcb.1101171055390063

njee20 · June 30, 2025, 10:52:11 PM

From the King

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce377nr5r43o.amp

Just seemed an unfortunate symmetry. Perhaps someone like Narrow Planet for custom ones? You've got decent photos.

GlenEglise · July 01, 2025, 08:37:05 PM

Quote from: njee20 on June 30, 2025, 10:36:40 PMNot sure you'll get many people falling over themselves to do new etches!

I am not sure why you suggest that.

Locomotive nameplates etc. for steam and diesel locos abound and most of them have been scrapped. As the last example of a Royal Train surely that would make it an outstanding candidate for replication of the insignia and nameplates.

Just my thoughts.

GE

njee20 · July 01, 2025, 10:40:13 PM

67s are being scrapped as they have no revenue earning work. Whilst anything with a Royal insignia will always be popular there's a good chance these won't see any more front line action and will quite likely rot at Toton before being chopped up!

The most obvious candidate would be Shawplan - they do a set for the existing loco(s). The frustration is how hard it is to get hold of Brian to actually order anything, let alone make an enquiry about whether he'll be updating his etches!

GlenEglise · July 01, 2025, 11:18:35 PM

Yes, 67's sadly getting disposed. Seems nothing lasts long these days.

The Royal Train being rather long in the tooth was a candidate for disposal and cost of replacement and ongoing costs would be crazy.

GE

GlenEglise · July 06, 2025, 09:46:36 PM

Quote from: njee20 on July 01, 2025, 10:40:13 PMThe most obvious candidate would be Shawplan - they do a set for the existing loco(s).

I am happy to email him and give it a try, you never know, it may be a possibility.

Thanks

GE

njee20 · July 06, 2025, 10:07:39 PM

For whatever reason it's only 67006 that's been done. 005 still carries ER insignia. Presumably as part of the renaming of 006.

You wouldn't be the first to get a reply from Brian, but it's a rare occurrence!

Foxhound · July 10, 2025, 04:01:59 PM

Quote from: njee20 on July 01, 2025, 10:40:13 PM67s are being scrapped as they have no revenue earning work. <snip>

Just a shame they aren't suitable for the GW sleepers, as the reliability of the 57s has been shocking of late. I wonder if TfW will take any more of them?

GlenEglise · July 10, 2025, 10:29:23 PM

Quote from: njee20 on July 06, 2025, 10:07:39 PMFor whatever reason it's only 67006 that's been done. 005 still carries ER insignia. Presumably as part of the renaming of 006.

You wouldn't be the first to get a reply from Brian, but it's a rare occurrence!

Brian replied stright away to me and I have sent him photographs so I will await his response.

I think you may bem mistaken as 67005 is renaimed King's Messenger with the King's Crest and cipher.

67006 is Royal Sovereign.

GE

njee20 · July 10, 2025, 11:18:49 PM

Indeed, other way around! Certainly last week 006 still had ER insignia.