Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements

Started by Tank, January 31, 2023, 02:58:12 PM

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eddief83

Quote from: Aire Valley on February 01, 2023, 01:44:43 PM
YGH Sealion was a welcome surprise. Who saw that one coming?! I'm glad that they're doing another run on what was rumoured as a model never to be released again. Given that there were hundreds in civil engineers yellow/grey and only a handful in Loadhaul, Transrail and Mainline, I expect the Dutch livery to be very popular.

The rest was pretty underwhelming, again.

No coaches
No update on sound fitted class 47
No update on class 158
No additional class 60 liveries
No update on class 69
No sound fitted class 37
No update on HAA (re-release announced in 2019)
No re-tooled Poole era rolling stock.
No new tooled rolling stock. Again.

2023 Chinese New Year. Year of the sloth.

Tim

These videos are for "new" announcements, IE stuff not in the catalogue before. So 47's, 158's and 69 will not be covered. These will be in the collectors club magazine with updates on progress.

All I can say is the 47 is not sound now - or at least they said they were dropping it - but this new system maybe they will do it after all. I can certainly imagine a few more liveries when we reach their quarter

Bob G

I must build my 18 Peco tippler kits and add the Railtec transfers I bought a few years ago, to do a rake of STONE tipplers. I spent £120 on that investment in my gloat box, and if I were to ditch them and buy these new Farish ones, that would come to £351 at a 15% discount - so 1/3rd the price for the kits.

I also find it annoying that Farish think that for the STONE wagons they can charge another £2 more than the exact same wagon in other liveries. Typical. You don't see that happening from any other manufacturer.

The Walruses are also 3x the price I paid for my first rake of 12 in Departmental Olive green. I probably won't get more than a couple or three, to go with my black Dogfish.

Must say the Farish prices make Dapol, Peco, Revolution and Rapido look positively good value these days.

RapierPower

Quote from: Bob G on February 01, 2023, 03:52:27 PM
I must build my 18 Peco tippler kits and add the Railtec transfers I bought a few years ago, to do a rake of STONE tipplers. I spent £120 on that investment in my gloat box, and if I were to ditch them and buy these new Farish ones, that would come to £351 at a 15% discount - so 1/3rd the price for the kits.

I also find it annoying that Farish think that for the STONE wagons they can charge another £2 more than the exact same wagon in other liveries. Typical. You don't see that happening from any other manufacturer.

But the STONE wagons include a load don't they, I guess the factory don't just throw that in for the same price as the others so I'd expect to pay more for something with such an extra included

Bob G

Quote from: RapierPower on February 01, 2023, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: Bob G on February 01, 2023, 03:52:27 PM
I must build my 18 Peco tippler kits and add the Railtec transfers I bought a few years ago, to do a rake of STONE tipplers. I spent £120 on that investment in my gloat box, and if I were to ditch them and buy these new Farish ones, that would come to £351 at a 15% discount - so 1/3rd the price for the kits.

I also find it annoying that Farish think that for the STONE wagons they can charge another £2 more than the exact same wagon in other liveries. Typical. You don't see that happening from any other manufacturer.

But the STONE wagons include a load don't they, I guess the factory don't just throw that in for the same price as the others so I'd expect to pay more for something with such an extra included
A little plastic moulding doesn't cost £2 per wagon to produce, and I'd rather have real stone, thank you very much.

Bob G

#19
Oh dear, I seem to have pre-ordered a handful of black Walruses from TMC. They offer free postage (over £100) whereas Rails only offer free postage on Locos.

Bob

Skyline2uk

Rumours reached my ears at TINGS that the Sealion / cow / walrus was back on the cards. As did the projected price.

It's got to be a good thing overall, showing intent to continue in the scale.

I think the Loadhaul ones look rather nice, but believe they were quite scarce in reality so probably one for me at most.

Interesting to note the National Power hoppers getting another run, maybe a reaction imminent Class 59s? I have been led to believe they were (especially the DB red) slow sellers.

I feel for steam modellers, and think the continued lack of coaches is rather silly.

Skyline2uk

Hailstone

Once again, I am totally underwhelmed.NO new Steam loco (and I don't mean re engineered for sound), NO Thompson coaches in maroon or any others for that matter, the only possible attack on my wallet will be the Seacows in black - after telling us that they wouldn't be doing them any more! did someone in Barwell actually listen to us regarding them? I doubt it.

Regards,

Alex

bluedepot

not very exciting announcements really...

i like seacows but not paying 51 pounds each for them

tim

Newportnobby

Quote from: nobby on February 01, 2023, 10:03:21 AM
no coaches again

Quote from: N-Gauge-US on February 01, 2023, 12:27:06 PM
and, as pointed out already, no coaches.

Quote from: Foxhound on February 01, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
another run of Mk1s and Mk2s, particularly in blue & grey, would be very welcome.

Quote from: pinball on February 01, 2023, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: Foxhound on February 01, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
another run of Mk1s and Mk2s, particularly in blue & grey, would be very welcome.

My thoughts exactly!

Quote from: Aire Valley on February 01, 2023, 01:44:43 PM
No coaches

Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 01, 2023, 06:23:08 PM
I think the continued lack of coaches is rather silly. (paraphrased)

Am I correct in thinking if BachFar still have the tooling and they're in decent nick that this could be easy money for them? Mind you, I guess some would then moan about the cost (and, yes, that includes me)

Portpatrick

With coaches I have all the Mk1s,  LMS Pd3s and NPCVs I want.  But I still have a short rake of the very early Farish corridor coaches.  Now running on modern wheels.  SomeLMS Pd 1 and 2 would be nice for an upgrade.  But no doubt far too specialist for large scale production.

Bob G

But if nobody is making coaches, who is going to start off in N?
Most people joining the hobby want a loco, coaches and wagons, and an oval of track.
Is this some ploy to get the train sets that Farish have made sold as train sets rather than split up?

Good job Dapol make some coaches, I say.

Bob

Steven B

Quote from: Newportnobby on February 02, 2023, 10:19:37 AM
Am I correct in thinking if BachFar still have the tooling and they're in decent nick that this could be easy money for them? Mind you, I guess some would then moan about the cost (and, yes, that includes me)

The problem Bachmann UK have is limited factory capacity. As well as issues around Covid, they're fighting Bachmann US for production slots in the Kader Industries factory.

Short runs for UK N Gauge models become harder to justify if the factory's not running at full capacity - if you managed the factory would you prefer to spend two days setting up for a production run of 1000 or 5000?

Thomas the Tank engine is also to blame. Bachmann are releasing Toby, Gordon and Emily as N Gauge models this year - each of which will probably outsell all the locos produced under the Farish brand this year.

Steven B.

Yet_Another

That's brilliant. A bunch of Thomas stuff in N that probably says 'Not suitable for children under 15' on the box.
Tony

'...things are not done by those who sit down to count the cost of every thought and act.' - Sir Daniel Gooch of IKB

Thorpe Parva

I'll probably purchase both Whales, both Sand Tipplers & possibly a Bogie Bolster. All are listed as May/June deliveries on the Bachmann website so time to save up.

Newportnobby

Regarding the Bogie C bolster wagons, I bought 5 x 373-926 from the last run so won't be buying new. OK, mine all have the same running number but, as pointed out, who can see them at normal viewing distance?

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