Cheap(ish) Chinese Supplied Wagons on Ebay

[Railwaygun]

The Everest Models Shop

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/everestmodel

And some coupling / bogie sets

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313164319926

[ntpntpntp]

Meanwhile, what are these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313865698663?

4-wheel container flats?  They have what look like various locating points for different lengths of container.

[njee20]

Indeed if you scroll through the pictures there are some with containers on too.

Again, a European prototype (like all their stuff I'd say); I know there are some German ones, not sure of the UIC designation.

[ntpntpntp]

My example of the Everest Model covered wagon arrived today.  Unbranded grey with orange/red ends.
Seems quite a decent model, NEM couplings (yes one is drooping in the photo but I sorted that afterward).  Fine flanges and quite narrow wheel treads.
As said before, perhaps not the "bargain" of the earlier Evemodel offerings but not bad.

[njee20]

Nice bit of detailing on the canvas side too.

[steadfast]

Thanks for posting the links, I've just order two sets of American style bogies for when I get around to doing some FCAs to model the Severnside bin train

Jo

[ntpntpntp]

Comparing the Everest Model wagon with a Modelbahn Union version (based on a Dapol wagon).
More detail on the UM model, different bogies but put together they look ok I think.

[Gordon]

This thread prompted me to order some 1:160 containers, and they arrived by express courier from China in double quick time!




Upside 1: The containers measure up as almost spot on 1:160 for a 40ft hi-cube
Upside 2: the CMA CGM carry  the bang-on current 'bamboo' branding

Downside 1: they appear to be designed to have the tiny spigots on each bottom corner which would make them compatible with certain Arnold container wagons but the spigots have mostly broken off either in packing or in transit

Downside 2: The MSC container is lettered as a 42G1 which is the code for non hi cube 40ft containers

neutral: they have magnets inside the roof and on the (removable) base. This is helpful in many ways but in some stacking positions the magnets in two different containers repel

[Gordon]

I presume this seller has obtained the rights to use out of use moulds from other mainstream and/or defunct manufacturers?

My initial hunch was that 'Everest' products are moulds used by Chinese companies contracted to manufacture models on behalf of European brands - perhaps the moulds are modified slightly? 

[Steven B]

Factory seconds or additional models produced as part of a production run to ensure they had enough to meet their contracted order quantities would be my guess.

Either way, if I were the original commissioner of these models I'd be less than impressed.


Steven B.

[njee20]

Downside 1: they appear to be designed to have the tiny spigots on each bottom corner which would make them compatible with certain Arnold container wagons but the spigots have mostly broken off either in packing or in transit

Downside 2: The MSC container is lettered as a 42G1 which is the code for non hi cube 40ft containers

Surely the bigger downside is the fact the P&O Nedlloyd container is missing half the logo...?

[jmupton2000]

I received my single example a couple of days ago and - naturally - the first thing I did was take it apart!!

The body simply unclips from the chassis, main reason being the weights had come loose in transit and were rattling around inside the body.  Bit of glue sorted that out.

The chassis itself is fairly straightforward in design with two weights glued (usually!) in place resulting in an impressively heavy wagon.  A pair of nice bogies are then screwed onto the underframe.

[jmupton2000]

The bodyshell is a nice crisply moulded single piece, this one being supplied in a plain grey with red ends livery




The bogies are also nicely made, screw in with a single screw and washer into holes on the underside of the chassis and feature metal wheel sets and NEM coupler pockets, seen here with the supplied Rapido swapped for a Dapol EasiShunt:


Two problems I have discovered so far, one bogie was very tight on the pivot and a little moulding flash needed removing from the chassis mounting point.  The other problem is that if it is required to negotiate very tight curves, there is a part of the chassis that fouls the swing of the bogie:

[Richard Taylor]

Factory seconds or additional models produced as part of a production run to ensure they had enough to meet their contracted order quantities would be my guess.

Either way, if I were the original commissioner of these models I'd be less than impressed.


Steven B.

Have a Google for "third shift counterfeits" and China. For example see https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1825&context=student_scholarship

Richard

[jmupton2000]

Yes it is fictitious but I thought, why not?  Applied some spare transfers and it looks the part: