Dapol Sleepers

njee20 · October 12, 2021, 08:37:28 AM

They did a batch of buffered mk3s with "InterCity 125" lettering which were also sold off cheap. Don't remember the blue/grey ones I must admit.

I mean where to start on their livery howlers if we get into examples! I do think the market is sensitive to it. Their last GBRf 66 was a total joke. Completely wrong. They never officially sold it cheap, but it was one of the ones the Collector's Club were punting out for £50.

bridgiesimon · October 12, 2021, 08:50:45 AM

Their Pullman class 67 way not much better, the brown is totally wrong.
This is now all about how Dapol are going to deal with this situation.
Best wishes
Simon

Adam1701D · October 12, 2021, 09:09:07 AM

It's a really nice coach and well priced. Shame about the livery application - the logo looks like Times New Roman Italic.

I've got one on order, so will see if there is anything I can do to fix things.

woodbury22uk · October 12, 2021, 09:39:38 AM

From looking at the finish on the ones delivered and on display on the Hatton's website, it is clear that the tampo printing set up for the silver window surrounds is part of the suite available, just not used on the Intercity version. Whether the omission was acceptable to Dapol, an omission in the finishing process or just not spotted soon enough, Dapol would have been well advised not to release them without recognising and explaining the omission in their publicity. The lettering font, colours etc. are specific to the model, but the silver window surrounds are a distinctive part of some of the liveries, and already provided for.

jmupton2000 · December 10, 2021, 10:52:44 PM

I have just seen the photos of the production blue grey version and it is a mess. Another model that will need practically a complete respray to correct major errors...

Adam1701D · December 10, 2021, 10:57:59 PM

The FGW version appears to have brown swirls down the sides...

njee20 · December 11, 2021, 08:37:51 AM

Quote from: captainelectra on December 10, 2021, 10:57:59 PM
The FGW version appears to have brown swirls down the sides...

Again one they made a reasonable attempt of (given the complexity in the scale) on their earliest releases, before the HST buffets regressed, whilst they simultaneously fixed other errors on that release. I don't understand how you can actually make things worse on a livery you have previously accomplished quite well, but here we are. Obviously my offer to check over livery artwork for future releases went unanswered. So I'm sure we'll be here again in no time given their acute inability to do things right.

Calnefoxile · December 20, 2021, 11:33:47 AM

Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 11, 2021, 09:52:01 AM

Thank god I only ordered the BR Blue ones, which haven't materialised yet.

Cheers

Neal.

Well I've seen the Blue/Grey ones and............they're pants!!!!

So that's my pre-order of 5 cancelled.

I know that the only issue is the livery application, especially the grey band, but it's just too much for me. To rectify it will need a pretty much complete respray, the grey band is too wide and too high, which pretty much deletes the Blue between the top of the grey and the roofline.

The only way Dapol are going to learn to have better Q&A is for us punters to reject stuff that isn't right.

Right off me soapbox now.

Regards

Neal.

njee20 · December 20, 2021, 12:37:28 PM

The frustrating thing, of course, is that only a small proportion of the market will care. So they'll keep getting artwork approved by the blind work experience kid, because they can.

The frustration is that, yet again, it would have been as easy to get it right as wrong. This isn't a compromise in tooling, or limitations in printing. This is slapdash design. Obviously the offers of help fall on deaf ears too. Perhaps the livery guy is deaf as well as blind

guest311 · December 20, 2021, 01:03:05 PM

from the Hattons website
https://www.hattons.co.uk/541727/dapol_2p_006_001_mk_3_slep_sleeper_pantry_10510_in_br_blue_and_grey_with_intercity_sleeper_brandi/stockdetail

njee20 · December 20, 2021, 01:18:55 PM

So not only should it say "Inter-City" it's in entirely the wrong place, should be more in line with the left hand edge of the window.

guest311 · December 20, 2021, 01:55:19 PM

don't worry, it's Christmas, people will buy it.

and at least they did put buffers on it :'(

Steven B · December 20, 2021, 02:49:11 PM

It's almost a match for 10713, currently used for volunteer accommodation at Kidderminster on the Severn Valley railway:

10713 Kidderminster 300612 by Dan Adkins, on Flickr

Has anyone found any photos of the coach Dapol have modelled (10510) to see if it's correct for that coach (even if it's not typical for the era)?

Steven B

RailGooner · December 20, 2021, 02:53:32 PM

Quote from: njee20 on December 20, 2021, 12:37:28 PM
.. Perhaps the livery guy is deaf as well as blind

You've hit on something Dapol excel at... Inclusivity, Diversity and Equality.

njee20 · December 20, 2021, 04:33:43 PM

Quote from: Steven B on December 20, 2021, 02:49:11 PM
It's almost a match for 10713, currently used for volunteer accommodation at Kidderminster on the Severn Valley railway:

10713 Kidderminster 300612 by Dan Adkins, on Flickr

Has anyone found any photos of the coach Dapol have modelled (10510) to see if it's correct for that coach (even if it's not typical for the era)?

Steven B

No I failed to find a single photo of it, admittedly not looking very hard!

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