LNER Class P2

[JonMann]

Does anybody think we will see a LNER Class P2 in N. Been following the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust under the guise of the P2 Steam Locomotive Company and the build of their P2 and see Hornby are releasing one in OO in conjunction with them. We had a model of their Class A1 Tornado in N, so am hoping we get to see the P2 as well.

[Shiney Sheff]

It would be nice

[Skyline2uk]

This is a fascinating question.

I know nothing about the prototype (other than it was big, had an unusual wheel configuration and was later rebuilt into awkward looking versions).

I would say anything is possible but it will need somebody willing to sink a lot of money into it and correspondingly will create a high RRP.

Ironically if only the "new build" one was offered in model form it will appeal to only collectors and the ultra-modern image crowd!

Having said that, without knowing what details there are between the "new" one and the original 7 (?), maybe tooling would allow originals to be offered as well? That would surely make more economic sense.

Speculation on my part of course.

Skyline2uk

[Newportnobby]

Sadly experimental prototypes are unlikely to feature in RTR plans owing to small sales potential.
Forum member East Anglian has created one, though.......




I would love to get a RTR 'Kestrel', 'Falcon' and 'Lion'

[martyn]

Unlikely, probably.

There were three main versions in a class of six, and even then the last four had subtle boiler differences.

P2/1 unstreamlined, smoke deflectors, poppet valves. One engine

P2/2 unstreamlined, piston valves, smoke deflectors. One engine. Front of engine visually different to the P2/1.

Both these later rebuilt to P2/3.

P2/3 streamlined similarly to but not the same as A4s. Four engines.


Very restricted area of use, although some, but not all, had trials on the ECML. Limited time span before rebuilding to Pacifics.

If the newbuilds are successful, it may lead to interest : also Rule 1.

Are there not rival P2 societies, one building unstreamlined, one building streamlined? I'm afraid I'm now rather out of touch with the preservation movements.

Martyn

[east anglian]

Hi   Martyn,   yes    your    right   I   have   built   all    3    versions,   

[msr]

I posted photos of one of @east anglian's marvels which he did for me back in 2014. Here are a couple of shots again:

[PLD]

Are there not rival P2 societies, one building unstreamlined, one building streamlined? I'm afraid I'm now rather out of touch with the preservation movements.

P2 Steam Locomotive Company (an associate of the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust who built Tornado) are building a 7th class member in original style incorpotating engineering developments and "lessons learned" to be practical for present day main line use. It is to be numbered 2007 and named "Prince of Wales".
The rolling chassis is complete plus the cab fabricated and Boiler cladding sheetwork ready. The boiler is I believe ordered from the same German works that did Tornado's.

Doncaster P2 Locomotive Trust are building a replica 2001 "'male chicken' (changed by forum) of the North" in 1938 form with A4 style front end casing.
So far they have the main frames cut but little else.

[CumbriaPhil]

The new build P2 boiler is exactly the same as Tornado's.  The Trust has ordered two boilers from the German builders, Meinigen Works, one for the P2 and one as a spare for Tornado. When the P2 comes into service the boilers will all be interchangable, thus speeding up overhauls.

[east anglian]

P2   PRINCE   OF   WALES   I   have   visited   the   Darlington    works  and    have   seen   the   progress    on   its  build,   a   lot   of   its   construction   is   the   same   as   on   TORNADO  this  was   done   to  save   exspensive  parts  being   manufactured   ex  boiler   wheels   and    other    bits  are   the   same    as   TORNADO   and    as   no   one   has   seen  a  real   P2   they   would   not   know,   I   was    told  it   would   be   up   and   running   in   5   years   but   that   was   2   years    ago,   unfortunately  due   to   present  circumstances   things    have    ground   to   a   halt,  the   works  is   next   to   the   museum  and    worth   a   visit   they   have    a    model   huge  model  of   the   W1   HUSH   HUSH   which   I   remember   came   from   the    engineering   museum   in   Newcastle  when   it   closed   down.

[njee20]

The Hush Hush is a great looking loco (pre-rebuild obviously), shame it didn't survive!

[east anglian]

Could   not   agree   more,  its   style   was   years   ahead    of   its   time,   

[Dalteth]

I posted photos of one of @east anglian's marvels which he did for me back in 2014. Here are a couple of shots again:

Looks superb!

[w greatbatch]

I'd really love one of those  !!!!

[east anglian]

Cannot    believe   it   was   7    years    ago,